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1 team_fukit  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 11:06:20am

Incidentally, Spartanburg is my hometown. Well aware of this mentality.

2 nines09  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 11:19:33am

When asked why, the Spartanburg Soup Kitchen replied; “Because we are all Gods Children. Except for them.

3 CriticalDragon1177  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 12:23:26pm

So much for helping the poor.

4 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 1:13:24pm

re: #3 CriticalDragon1177

So much for helping the poor.

If the purpose was to help the poor, they probably could have done so quietly. If it was to produce a controversy, they got what they wanted. I’m a token agnostic in my Habitat affiliate—hasn’t been a problem in the last 12 years. They self-identify as a Christian ministry in the deep south. When they all ‘sign’ their work in the rafters and include their Bible verse, I do a bit of Pink Floyd.

5 team_fukit  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 2:00:49pm

re: #4 Decatur Deb

I agree that they could have helped people quietly, but then most people (Christians) would go on thinking that atheists don’t ever help anyone and that Christianity is a pre-requisite to doing good deeds. So I appreciate the controversy in that regard.

Habitat is a classy inter-faith organization that I bet is inclusive of Muslims too. Spartanburg Soup Kitchen is not.

The fact that its director insisted that the atheists could have the Devil across the street is indicative of an ignorant and exclusivist attitude that I don’t think Habitat and similar organizations would share.

6 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 2:13:29pm

re: #5 team_fukit

I agree that they could have helped people quietly, but then most people (Christians) would go on thinking that atheists don’t ever help anyone and that Christianity is a pre-requisite to doing good deeds. So I appreciate the controversy in that regard.

Habitat is a classy inter-faith organization that I bet is inclusive of Muslims too. Spartanburg Soup Kitchen is not.

The fact that its director insisted that the atheists could have the Devil across the street is indicative of an ignorant and exclusivist attitude that I don’t think Habitat and similar organizations would share.

The small Reform temple here raises money for a house every few years—often teamed with the small Catholic parish. The temple donates, but never sends a team to our Saturday house raisings. Must be a Jewish thing.

(I’ve offered to lead a crew on a Sunday build, but it went nowhere—the average age at the temple is probably in the 60s.)

7 team_fukit  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 2:15:33pm

Here’s their mission statement

and Call for Volunteers

They were affiliated with Second Presbyterian Church in town for almost thirty years until 2009 when they achieved separate non-profit status. So now this story surprises me a little, because Second Pres is one of the few liberal Protestant churches in town.

According to their site:
“The Spartanburg Soup Kitchen is an inter-denominational, inter-faith ministry, made up of a partnership of various individuals and organizations across the Upstate. We share a common belief that when we serve those in need, we serve God.”

8 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 2:26:16pm

re: #7 team_fukit

Yup. Bet I could have gone in there and slung agnostic hash with the rest of them. Somebody pissed somebody off deliberately. The only genuine CPUSA member I knew in the ’60s was a PCUSA minister. He was…naive.., but a good guy. Went to a Barbara Dane concert to raise his bail.

9 cinesimon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 4:36:40pm

re: #4 Decatur Deb

They only said something AFTER they were denied because of their lack of religious faith.
To suggest they were simply after attention from the start, is to say that you didn’t read the initial story. I see the response you use so much these days, - and almost always, using such a cliché against people trying to help out people in need, tends to signify an unthinking laziness - and scepticism based on your own anecdotal observations, not reality.

Are you sure Habitat for Humanity have soup kitchens and do the type of thing they wanted to do in the neighbourhood of the people we’re discussing? Or do you seriously think they should restrict themselves to communities and cities where their charity is welcome from religious authorities?

10 kirkspencer  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 4:38:44pm

I’m going to suggest we don’t know enough of the story - and we’re unlikely to get it.

Did a member of the atheist team get provocative? Or did a member of team church recognize one or more members from a previous encounter and go ballistic?

I have seen both in the past at other places so make no bets either way.

11 cinesimon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 4:39:38pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

You really do think you’re a mind reader and know exactly what their agenda is, don’t you? Yeah - all atheists are alike. So you can judge them all based upon one or two incidents that the religious right like to use. And you swallow it, hook line and sinker - because being automatically sceptical of their motivation says you’re all about thinking critically. Despite the fact that you clearly don’t bother to read about the actual situation.

12 cinesimon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 4:42:51pm

re: #10 kirkspencer

This isn’t the first and only news story about this situation. Earlier stories make it pretty clear that they simply wanted to volunteer, and were denied based upon their lack of faith - they had told the charity that they would keep their opinions to themselves, that they were keen to just quietly help out. But they were rejected based on their religious views. THEN they went to the press, after such blatant hatred and rejection of supposedly badly needed was thrown at them.

13 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 4:44:13pm

re: #11 cinesimon

You really do think you’re a kind reader and know exactly what their agenda is, don’t you? Yeah - all atheists are alike. So you can judge them all based upon one or two incidents that the religious right like to use. And you swallow it, hook line and sinker - because being automatically sceptical of their motivation says you’re all about thinking critically. Despite the fact that you clearly don’t bother to read about the actual situation.

Were you there to observe the encounter, or did you just read the aggrieved group’s website? Get back to me about critical thinking.

14 b_sharp  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 4:52:38pm

There is enough of a belief that atheists are somehow related to evil, Satan and have no moral framework to make this story believable on its face. There may indeed me more to it but it isn’t out of the realm of response atheists have received before.

That isn’t to say this situation is exactly that and while every news bit needs to be evaluated on its own, this can be used as a reminder that events like this do happen.

15 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:29:58pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

Were you there to observe the encounter, or did you just read the aggrieved group’s website? Get back to me about critical thinking.

Speaking of critical thinking, you should know perfectly well that this is an argument from ignorance.

If we discount the first person account because of potential bias, then we don’t have any evidence to conclude who pushed the issue. It is no more reasonable to assume that one of the atheists “pissed somebody off deliberately” than it is to assume the nonprofit instigated it.

16 steve_davis  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:30:29pm

I agree that the spokesperson for the soup kitchen sounded like kind of a jackwagon, but I kind of see the soup kitchen’s point. It’s a Christian-centered soup kitchen. They aren’t interested in being helped by people who think Christians are a bunch of gullible fools who pray to a big fairy in the sky, any more than Jews would be eager to have the local Stormfront movement volunteer to help them in their particular charitable efforts. Atheists do not occupy a good portion of Dante’s hell. They deny the immortality of the soul, and hence they get jammed into various tombs, until Judgement Day when, according to Dante’s view of things, they’ll be given their bodies back and THEN jammed BACK into the tombs. I’m a much more charitable Christian than Dante was, but even I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the triumphalistic douchebaggery that atheists online seem all to eager to demonstrate in discussion threads.

17 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:38:21pm

re: #15 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Speaking of critical thinking, you should know perfectly well that this is an argument from ignorance.

If we discount the first person account because of potential bias, then we don’t have any evidence to conclude who pushed the issue. It is no more reasonable to assume that one of the atheists “pissed somebody off deliberately” than it is to assume the nonprofit instigated it.

Rebuild the situation—Why would they show up unscheduled as a group? For that matter, why would they even indicate their belief system to the organizers, then make a public demonstration of counter-giving? It speaks to case-making. Obnoxious evangelical atheists should go to the same part of non-hell as obnoxious evangelical Christians.

18 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:50:28pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Perhaps I am reading a different article than you. Where does it say they showed up unscheduled as a group?

As for why they would indicate their belief it could be that they were asked. Should they lie if that was the case?

19 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:50:39pm

Just lost the laptop’s video and had to reboot. I’m either being punished or the observer of a statistical mean-time-between-failures.

20 Interesting Times  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:53:55pm

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Remember this story?

The atheist in that case (no matter how utterly wrong I think her anti-abortion views are) definitely did nothing to antagonize the Christian group, but was nonetheless told her help was most unwelcome. So, this soup kitchen story isn’t far-fetched in the least.

21 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:54:37pm

re: #18 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Perhaps I am reading a different article than you. Where does it say they showed up unscheduled as a group?

As for why they would indicate their belief it could be that they were asked. Should they lie if that was the case?

Brannon, 25, said they decided to hand out care packages to the homeless after being told they could not volunteer at the Spartanburg Soup Kitchen.

“I told them we wouldn’t wear our T-shirts. We wouldn’t tell anyone who we are with. We just want to help out,” Brannon said. “And they told us that we were not allowed.”

It’s a nondenominational soup kitchen. Asking would be inappropriate.

22 b_sharp  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:54:42pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

Just lost the laptop’s video and had to reboot. I’m either being punished or the observer of a statistical mean-time-between-failures.

I got home on Thursday and found that my laptop screen had been cracked. I now have a very colourful 1 inch strip on the left hand end of the screen.

23 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:57:05pm

re: #22 b_sharp

I got home on Thursday and found that my laptop screen had been cracked. I now have a very colourful 1 inch strip on the left hand end of the screen.

Smashed an old B&W while traveling—the mono screen relflected pretty colored swirls, with mono text in the unaffected shards.

24 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 5:57:29pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Clearly they were going to be doing it as a group. There is nothing in the article indicating that they were denied in person or that the denial wasn’t given while attempting to schedule time to volunteer.

25 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:01:00pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

Remember this story?

The atheist in that case (no matter how utterly wrong I think her anti-abortion views are) definitely did nothing to antagonize the Christian group, but was nonetheless told her help was most unwelcome. So, this soup kitchen story isn’t far-fetched in the least.

The (mostly deceptive) pro-life counseling centers are pretty fanatical by nature. These particular people were just handing out food, described as sane mainstreamers by someone above.

26 b_sharp  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:03:10pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

Smashed an old B&W while traveling—the mono screen relflected pretty colored swirls, with mono text in the unaffected shards.

This is just a thumb sized horizontal crack up against the left edge. I have a replacement screen coming.

I just feel stupid that I didn’t notice I broke it earlier.

27 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:03:41pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

So this doesn’t sound even slightly fanatical?

Lou Landrum, executive director of the Soup Kitchen, told the Herald-Journal she would resign from her job before she let atheists volunteer and be a “disservice to this community.”

“They can set up across the street from the Soup Kitchen. They can have the devil there with them, but they better not come across the street,” Landrum said.

28 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:06:46pm

re: #24 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Clearly they were going to be doing it as a group. There is nothing in the article indicating that they were denied in person or that the denial wasn’t given while attempting to schedule time to volunteer.

More info we just don’t have. A more informed evaluation would also require a feel for the history of the two groups.

Just not buying into the ‘evil bigot’ meme for a bunch of liberal protestants. The nasty ones around here don’t run soup kitchens, clinics, or support Habitat.

29 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:08:35pm

re: #27 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

So this doesn’t sound even slightly fanatical?

She’s certainly protecting her turf, and I’d ask what ‘disservice’ she expected and why.

30 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:09:45pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

So basically, we don’t have enough information. So the atheists probably did it.

As I said, it’s an argument from ignorance that relies on a number of generous assumptions about the nonprofit and negative assumptions about the atheists.

31 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:15:45pm

re: #30 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

So basically, we don’t have enough information. So the atheists probably did it.

As I said, it’s an argument from ignorance that relies on a number of generous assumptions about the nonprofit and negative assumptions about the atheists.

The alternative presented to the press, through a public demonstration, was ‘Christian bigots’. Pay your nickel. If it’s about getting food or comfort packs to the homeless, this isn’t how it’s done.

32 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:33:05pm

From the Go Upstate comments:

Kyle Cusick * Case Western
I’m a member of this group (although I’m unfortunately unavailable to help this weekend), and I was hoping we’d not only be able to volunteer at the soup kitchen, but also to wear our Upstate Atheists shirts. Not because we are trying to ‘convert’ people to Atheism, but because we want people to understand that Atheists are not evil people.
I’m afraid to tell people I’m an Atheist, because Atheism seems to be synonymous with evil and hatred. But you don’t have to believe in a higher power just to have morals. And what’s more, since we’re Atheists, we’re not expecting a reward of any sort, in this life or any other, we’re helping people simply for the sake of helping people. If we could go to places like the soup kitchen, volunteer our time, and be openly Atheist, then the world would start to understand that we can be good people.
We’re not trying to get you to be an Atheist. We just want you to be ok with us being Atheist.
[Update]
I’ve changed my plans on Saturday so that I’ll be available to help. I’m so proud of my friends for standing up for themselves, and for the rest of us, instead of taking the easy path and leaving those people in need. I want to be there to help, and to stand by my friends!
Reply * 120 *
* October 23 at 7:56pm

Simple, non-confrontational answer: Start an Upstate Atheist charity outreach. Doesn’t have to be elaborate.

33 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:36:28pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

I’d agree that handing out care packages seems to be a less than optimal solution to a hasty change in plans. But it is reasonable to expect that you can get a decent number of care packages to the homeless by going to where homeless are likely to be found.

What we don’t have any evidence for is that someone intentionally pissed off the nonprofit. Based on her own statements it seems clear the director would turn down atheists upon simply finding out about their non-belief, no pissing needed. The atheist group meanwhile has worked in the past with other religious groups such as Habitat for Humanity, so it would be a change for them to reject working with the religious.

34 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:44:01pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Simple, non-confrontational answer: Start an Upstate Atheist charity outreach. Doesn’t have to be elaborate.

Upstate atheists is a charity group.

35 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:47:52pm

re: #33 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

I’d agree that handing out care packages seems to be a less than optimal solution to a hasty change in plans. But it is reasonable to expect that you can get a decent number of care packages to the homeless by going to where homeless are likely to be found.

What we don’t have any evidence for is that someone intentionally pissed off the nonprofit. Based on her own statements it seems clear the director would turn down atheists upon simply finding out about their non-belief, no pissing needed. The atheist group meanwhile has worked in the past with other religious groups such as Habitat for Humanity, so it would be a change for them to reject working with the religious.

I’m working back from what happened—confrontation, demonstration, publicity, antagonistic response in the news and supposedly on the street. If they were that altruistic, they would have left her alone and put all of their energy into a quiet effective effort.

That’s why I build for Habitat—they get the job done. I don’t give a shit if they want to pray over the buyer.

36 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:51:01pm

re: #34 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Upstate atheists is a charity group.

Then why did they need this lady’s church group?

“We’re experiencing a heavy server load due to all the media attention, …”

37 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:53:53pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

That’s why I build for Habitat—they get the job done. I don’t give a shit if they want to pray over the buyer.

And neither do Upstate Atheists, since they and Habitat have worked together in the past.

As for the antagonism. I’d want others to know too if I was excluded from a nonprofit because of my beliefs. So they can choose other charities that aren’t exclusive, as I would myself.

re: #36 Decatur Deb

They why did they need this lady’s church group?

“We’re experiencing a heavy server load due to all the media attention, …”

It is fairly common for charities to work together. Especially if one of them is too small to have a major program of their own.

38 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:55:45pm

re: #37 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

And neither do Upstate Atheists, since they and Habitat have worked together in the past.

As for the antagonism. I’d want others to know too if I was excluded from a nonprofit because of my beliefs. So they can choose other charities that aren’t exclusive, as I would myself.

It is fairly common for charities to work together. Especially if one of them is too small to have a major program of their own.

I’m starting to like you—don’t go disingenuous on me.

39 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:05:00pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Well I find it a stretch that because Upstate Atheists decided to go public that means that they must have been the ones to instigate the situation. It is just as likely that the christian charity really is bigoted and the atheists just used the denial as an opportunity to get publicity.

I have worked for Habitat for Humanity precisely because I know they are willing to let an open atheist volunteer. If I was giving time or money I’d want it to go to an organization that I know was focused on results and not ideological exclusion.

40 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:09:37pm

re: #39 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Well I find it a stretch that because Upstate Atheists decided to go public that means that they must have been the ones to instigate the situation. It is just as likely that the christian charity really is bigoted and the atheists just used the denial as an opportunity to get publicity.

I have worked for Habitat for Humanity precisely because I know they are willing to let an open atheist volunteer. If I was giving time or money I’d want it to go to an organization that I know was focused on results and not ideological exclusion.

Once again—the sequence. The soup kitchen didn’t call up the atheists and tell them to stay away. They denied them their turf. If that happens you go do good somewhere else. Instead they launched a campaign to harm the work the god-botherers were doing. Martyrs without a god.

41 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:27:04pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Sure, they aren’t letting it go like they probably should.

But pointing out bigotry to gain publicity and increase their profile at the expense of the christian charity, a possible scenario, isn’t the same as your preferred explanation that the atheists had planned to instigate the situation from the start. That would be a change from their past behavior. Meanwhile there is no indication that the christian charity has knowingly worked in the past with atheists. Quite the opposite.

Based on the director’s comments, do you feel confident that a homeless nonbeliever would get fair treatment from the soup kitchen? Would you be comfortable giving time or money to that organization?

42 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:34:48pm

re: #41 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Sure, they aren’t letting it go like they probably should.

But pointing out bigotry to gain publicity and increase their profile at the expense of the christian charity, a possible scenario, isn’t the same as your preferred explanation that the atheists had planned to instigate the situation from the start.

Not certain they planned it, but they wasted to time exploiting it to the ultimate cost of the helpless.

That would be a change from their past behavior. Meanwhile there is no indication that the christian charity has knowingly worked in the past with atheists. Quite the opposite.

They don’t have an obligation to help someone subvert their cosmology.

Based on the director’s comments, do you feel confident that a homeless nonbeliever would get fair treatment from the soup kitchen.

Kidding? Homeless non-believers are evangelical gold. They’ll get extra gruel.

Would you be comfortable giving time or money to that organization?

If that was the only way to get food into mouths? Yes. Personally I subscribe to “Give us justice and keep your charity”, but we’re a long way from that.

43 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:46:16pm

re: #42 Decatur Deb

Not certain they planned it, but they wasted to time exploiting it to the ultimate cost of the helpless.

Cost to the helpless? how so? It sounds like some homeless got a care package they wouldn’t otherwise have gotten.

They don’t have an obligation to help someone subvert their cosmology.

Of course they can be as exclusive as they like. Just like I could choose to give to a different organization and warn my friends away from them.

Kidding? Homeless non-believers are evangelical gold. They’ll get extra gruel.

And extra preaching.

If that was the only way to get food into mouths? Yes.

Clearly they aren’t the only way to get food into peoples mouths.

44 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:54:47pm

re: #43 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Cost to the helpless? how so? It sounds like some homeless got a care package they wouldn’t otherwise have gotten.

Of course they can be as exclusive as they like. Just like I could choose to give to a different organization and warn my friends away from them.

And extra preaching.

Clearly they aren’t the only way to get food into peoples mouths.

If they wreck the flow of donations, or turn off the supporting churches, the hungry will certainly feel it. Remember SNAP?

In RL, I wouldn’t give to them either, even before this. My RC wife usually insists that part of our giving go to Catholic Social Services. In fairness I can’t disagree, but I get to ride her all year about ‘rice Christians’. We agree on Heifer International for off-shore usefulness and their strategy. Habitat is gold, because I can always see that, when we’re done, there’s a fucking house standing there. And I like hitting things with hammers.

45 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:12:33pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

If they wreck the flow of donations, or turn off the supporting churches, the hungry will certainly feel it. Remember SNAP?

That could happen, but it is by no means a certain outcome. People donating and church support is likely to be given to some charity even if it doesn’t keep going to this particular one.

Some people will hear that the soup kitchen doesn’t like atheists and say “yeah, I don’t either” and decide to donate.

Some people will hear about the discrimination and decide not to support the kitchen but give to a different chairty.

Some people will hear about this publicity and decide to give to either organization, even though they wouldn’t have heard about either before the publicity. The atheist website is experiencing high traffic remember? The soup kitchen’s is probably as well.

Anyway, I wouldn’t give to either of these groups. I focus on results and am not convinced either of them would be an effective use of my money. And I tend to give a lot more time than money. If a group discriminated against me because of my non-belief I wouldn’t go around making a big stink about it like Upstate Atheists did, but I would let my friends know.

46 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:21:26pm

re: #45 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Yup. The seriousness depends on that community’s assets, and I don’t know them. If our town lost its food bank or one free clinic the hit would be immediate and arguably fatal for someone. There is nothing like Habitat, though it isn’t crisis housing. We went from 10-14 houses per year to 2-3 after the Bush collapse and the (war-related) materials cost takeoff.

47 team_fukit  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:36:44pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Spartanburg is basically an old mill community, minus the mills. The town is doing better than it was in the late 1970s when all the mills dried up, and now most people have retail, public or (a few) manufacturing jobs there.

There’s a pretty big conservative Evangelical majority there that will support the Soup Kitchen, the controversy will probably drum up a ton of donations for them.

48 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:38:03pm

re: #47 team_fukit

Spartanburg is basically an old mill community, minus the mills. The town is doing better than it was in the late 1970s when all the mills dried up, and now most people have retail, public or (a few) manufacturing jobs there.

There’s a pretty big conservative Evangelical majority there that will support the Soup Kitchen, the controversy will probably drum up a ton of donations for them.

The FSM moves in mysterious sauces.

49 freetoken  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:34:29pm

re: #16 steve_davis

To me the basic issue is one of Freedom of Association. If an explicitly Christian organization requires of its associates that they agree to the same code of thinking then so be it.

This of course should not be confused with discrimination in the public sphere - which is why having a whites-only drinking fountain would be illegal in Spartanburg, even if some of the community would desire one.


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