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1 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 3:29:58pm

I remember reading an article about war rape against men.
It was about historical wars in Europe and a problem with (Very masculine and otherwise straight) soldiers raping wounded or dead men on the battle field.
Interesting stuff.
I am curious to know what cultural triggers this comes from, especially since there were some cultures where rape just did not happen, to women or men.
The only thing these non raping cultures seemed to have in common is that women were considered sexual, political and social equals to men and they were accepting of homosexuality as well.
I wonder if that has any significance?
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Maybe, because homosexuality was not seen as emasculating and sex for women was not a taboo, rape wouldn’t be thought of as a weapon?

There really needs to be more written about this. It is horrifying.

2 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 3:46:08pm
The only thing these non raping cultures seemed to have in common is that women were considered sexual, political and social equals to men.

What cultures are these? I am not aware of any cultures in which women are considered equals to men. Not even this one.

3 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 4:02:46pm

OK, fine. Iceland seems to have real gender equality.

4 SidewaysQuark  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 4:23:19pm

We can’t even begin to combat the culture of rape until we admit we need to start stripping away the religious, social and cultural mores of “sexual shame”.

5 Sherlock Hound  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 6:08:00pm

I wish I were surprised. It’s almost in our very genes. One of the commentariat in the Guardian article brought up prison rape, which is probably closest of all things in America to the troubles in Africa.

How many times have we heard sodomy jokes, laughed or retold them? One nice saying, “You’re not queer if you’re the one on top!”

I can’t even be outraged, just very sad. We will find ever more inventive ways to humiliate one another, and rape is only the strongest way to say to someone, “F U… F U! You’re MINE. You’re NOTHING!” All the talk about sex just obscures that.

6 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 6:46:17pm

re: #5 Sherlock Hound

I wish I were surprised. It’s almost in our very genes. One of the commentariat in the Guardian article brought up prison rape, which is probably closest of all things in America to the troubles in Africa.

How many times have we heard sodomy jokes, laughed or retold them? One nice saying, “You’re not queer if you’re the one on top!”

I can’t even be outraged, just very sad. We will find ever more inventive ways to humiliate one another, and rape is only the strongest way to say to someone, “F U… F U! You’re MINE. You’re NOTHING!” All the talk about sex just obscures that.

The fact is that the majority of individuals DO NOT BEHAVE this way. Education, nutrition, the rule of law, the concept of having some control of one’s destiny all factor into the creation and maintenance of a functioning society.

Power and Control thrive in shame and secrecy. We cannot remain silent. We cannot tolerate “those jokes”. We can no longer remain complacent.

7 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 9:11:42pm

re: #3 moderatelyradicalliberal

There were several, right here in America. Well, there were.

8 Aunty Entity Dragon  Sun, Nov 17, 2013 8:42:08am

re: #2 moderatelyradicalliberal

What cultures are these? I am not aware of any cultures in which women are considered equals to men. Not even this one.

Some of the ancient Celtic tribes in Britain had gender equality (women held property, fought in war and could rule. (This is exactly what lead to the Iceni revolt when the Romans denied that Boudicca…being a woman…could inherit the kingship of the tribe)


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