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1 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 4:37:59pm

Yowza. One of the first steps towards correcting this problem. Nice.

2 RealityBasedSteve  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 4:49:17pm

Predictable RW outrage about “The Feral Gubment is outlawing being a Christian” soon to come. Film at 11.

RBS

3 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 4:53:33pm

Good. Unless the money goes directly to charitable acts, it should be taxed.

4 Lidane  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 5:19:34pm

re: #3 moderatelyradicalliberal

Good. Unless the money goes directly to charitable acts, it should be taxed.

Even then, “charitable acts” should be strictly defined. Fundie churches could call their fake crisis pregnancy centers and conversion therapy quacks charity if there’s not an actual definition in place. Things like providing for homeless shelters and food banks are okay, the others wouldn’t be.

5 majii  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 5:35:39pm

I’m in favor of yanking the tax exempt status of any church whose pastors intimately involve themselves in politics. This would reduce the impact of loud mouthed liars for God like Papa Cruz, Bryan Fischer, Pat Robertson, and other RW mouthpieces.

6 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Nov 23, 2013 1:32:32am

Persecution!!!!

7 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Nov 23, 2013 2:54:24am

Now we’re talkin’. Will the govt appeal, though?

If this decision stands, expect a raft of challenges from “ministers of the gospel”.

8 CriticalDragon1177  Sat, Nov 23, 2013 9:15:43am

FemNazi,

Thanks for telling me about this. I just alerted Skepchick.

9 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 24, 2013 1:16:19pm

The problem with this, and the eventual property tax exception (that will probably have to happen to all non-profits to pass constitutional muster), is that it’s the small but historical churches in places like Madison (that runs a homeless shelter) or very small ones like the one I’m a member of in Hayward (that have kept my family off the streets) that will be suffer. Most of these places barely have the money to operate as it is. Now we’ve taken away the equivalent of the mortgage deduction from ministers making their already far lower than the national average income that much lower. How would, for example, an old & historically significant but modestly attended church that is listed on the historical register and sits across the street from a state capitol come up with $XXX,XXX annually in property tax? And when it doesn’t, who will run the homeless shelter, the job search service and food pantry when they’re gone?

The Mega-churches that are actually causing all the trouble will have more than enough money to survive. And then harness the anger of the minority that attends those churches to even more political damage than they do now. They’ll have money, greed and anger and all the good works that were being done will be gone.

As I’ve mentioned in other contexts, be careful what you wish for. You might get it.


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