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1 Aqua Obama  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 5:35:08pm

Can’t say I can agree with the reading on some of those. No one accuses Truman for prolonging the war because he demanded the Japanese unconditionally surrender.

2 CriticalDragon1177  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 5:52:03pm

re: #1 Aqua Obama

Excellent point.

3 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 5:53:08pm

re: #1 Aqua Obama

Can’t say I can agree with the reading on some of those. No one accuses Truman for prolonging the war because he demanded the Japanese unconditionally surrender.

Although Japan did not actually surrender unconditionally: The Allies agreed Emperor Hirohito would not be removed.

4 team_fukit  Thu, Nov 28, 2013 7:44:25am

The list only has tactical mistakes, the worst mistakes made in World War II were the frequent on-the-job blunders that got friendlies killed. Paul Fussell’s Wartime is the best book I’ve read with a chapter devoted to the topic

5 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Nov 28, 2013 8:05:35am

re: #4 team_fukit

Okay, I’ll consider checking that book out of the library. Thanks for mentioning it.

6 aagcobb  Thu, Nov 28, 2013 9:04:50am

I tried to figure out what I thought the worst decision in human history was. I limited it to situations in which the decision maker(s) had information available to them to warn them, and the decision led directly to severe consequences, rather than being part of a chain of contingent events. Based on that criteria, I think the worst decision in human history was when the men advising President Hindenburg decided to make Adolph Hitler Chancellor of Germany. If they had read Mein Kampf, they should have realized that Hitler was an extremely dangerous man who shouldn’t have be allowed anywhere near the levers of power, but in their hubris they thought they could control him.

7 Aqua Obama  Thu, Nov 28, 2013 12:38:45pm

re: #6 aagcobb

Von Papen’s craven act transcended all forms of propriety. And all forms of time and space, if you really want to get specific.

8 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 28, 2013 1:06:58pm

re: #7 Aqua Obama

Von Papen’s craven act transcended all forms of propriety. And all forms of time and space, if you really want to get specific.

There is also the fact that Papen and the rest believed that they would likely not be on Hitler’s ‘kill list’ but they felt they would be killed if the Communists took power. ‘Bolshevism’ scared the daylights out of the European aristocrats of the 20’s and 30’s and more than a few were willing to support men like Mussolini and Hitler to prevent a Communist seizing of power that they (correctly) felt would result in the wholesale killing of the upper classes.

9 SteveMcGazi  Thu, Nov 28, 2013 6:16:59pm

I would make a couple of points. First, the failure of England and France to invade Western Germany did not give the Germans a year to prepare for the Battle of France. Only half a year elapsed from the Polish surrender to the start of the offensive in France. As nervous as the German generals were about their western front, they needn’t have worried, but as the entire article concedes, this is hindsight. I would argue that the western allies benefited more from the phony war than the Germans because they started their rearmament programs later than the Germans. And IF they had invaded the Rhineland in 1939, I think it’s fair to say that those weak German forces would have handled them easily. Remember the Polish campaign was not really in doubt and the Germans could have shifted forces and air units back to the west if needed.
Regarding the fourth point, about underestimating the Japanese, I think it’s fair to say that Germany posed a bigger threat to England and France than Japan did. That might account for the “second string” forces deployed to the Far East.
As far as the fifth point (Dieppe), I don’t really think it rises to the level of the others in casting doubt upon the outcome of the war.
Regarding the demand for unconditional surrender, I admit I am on a fence about it. One advantage of such a demand might be to prevent Germany from thinking they could split the alliance, which was something they were hoping for late in the war. But I do not think it caused the Germans to fight harder. The only thing the Germans were afraid of by 1945 was the Russians. I also don’t think they fought as hard against the west as they did the Russians. They were far more inclined to surrender to American and British forces than they were to the Russians.
Anzio was a tragic blunder, but not on the scale of the big mistakes. Same with Market-Garden.


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