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1 Kaessa  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 12:22:58pm

Every day I hate people more and more. I wish this doofus could spend a few years poor and/or homeless. It might give him some insight on what it’s really like.

2 BusyMonster  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 12:59:56pm

I’m a big fan of Burn Notice, and one of the episodes that really resonates with me is actually kind of an unofficial two-part story, where in part 1 the team rescues a kidnapped girl, and in part 2, the girl’s dad (a high-profile criminal defense attorney) decides to get “revenge” on the kidnappers by sending a crazed, trust-fund bomber after them.

The trust-fund bomber, “Dennis Barfield” I think, a guy who never once worked a day in his life, referred to virtually everyone else as a degenerate, scum, low-life, and casually blew them and anyone near them up with bombs. As a human being, he was completely useless, and a failure.

As is Greg Gopman, another useless human being, and a failure at being such. Unfortunately, he’s not fictional. His apology: means NOTHING, asswipe. You’re still a failure as a human being.

3 Snarknado!  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 1:18:39pm

Since I also live in that area, I can see what he sees, which is what the homeless, mentally ill and desperately poor look like when they’re home(less). The new “techie” area is encroaching on the Tenderloin, their home ground (i.e. where they segregate themselves), so of course he’s going to see them. And yes, it’s between the business district and the city center.

Oh, and by the way, that’s also where the working class has to hang out, prices in the city being what they are — or was he thinking that the “working class” has incomes like his?

4 cinesimon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 1:38:25pm

And this was after a trip to… CHINA. For fucks sake.

5 kerFuFFler  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 1:43:42pm

I am not so completely willing to pass judgement on Gopman for his discomfiture over the misbehaviors of San Francisco’s vagrants———in spite of his excessively entitled attitude . Part of the problem in places like SF is that the moderate climate over time attracts a disproportionate number of homeless people and social services are hard pressed to assist such an alarmingly large community of afflicted people. Law enforcement is very limited as to how to deal with individuals who are disruptive or menacing. A person who gets picked up will likely be back to the same spot the following day. And though not all homeless are dangerous, it is fair to say that a disproportionate number suffer from mental illness and can scare or disgust passers by. (And when I say “disgust”, I’m specifically referring only to disturbing behaviors——-spitting, swearing, inappropriate gestures, flashing, soliciting and so on, not the fact that they are unkempt.)

I am willing to take his apology at face value and be hopeful that he realizes that policies need to change to improve the lives of these people. Perhaps he can get behind efforts to increase funding for mental health, homeless shelters and assistance programs to help these people put their lives back together again.

6 Snarknado!  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:08:32pm

re: #5 kerFuFFler

I am willing to take his apology at face value and be hopeful that he realizes that policies need to change to improve the lives of these people. Perhaps he can get behind efforts to increase funding for mental health, homeless shelters and assistance programs to help these people put their lives back together again.

I could almost agree… if he hadn’t laid it on quite so thick.

7 calochortus  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:38:15pm

re: #3 Snarknado!

Yeah. Aside from the fact that homelessness and mental illness need to be dealt with rather than merely hidden, does this guy realize he is the one intruding on someone’s territory? Much of Market Street and the Tenderloin were not great areas 40 or 50 years ago. Now he is there and it needs to clean itself up for his convenience?

Did he miss the part where companies are getting big tax breaks to move into the area-ostensibly to provide redevelopment and employment, but the actual result seems to be increasing housing prices.

8 aagcobb  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 2:50:51pm

re: #7 calochortus

Yeah. Aside from the fact that homelessness and mental illness need to be dealt with rather than merely hidden, does this guy realize he is the one intruding on someone’s territory? Much of Market Street and the Tenderloin were not great areas 40 or 50 years ago. Now he is there and it needs to clean itself up for his convenience?

Did he miss the part where companies are getting big tax breaks to move into the area-ostensibly to provide redevelopment and employment, but the actual result seems to be increasing housing prices.

The problem is zoning. Zoning prevents increased density in high income areas, so to provide more lucrative high income housing they have to remove lower income housing. More rich people wanting to move to S.F. ought to be a boon for everyone, creating more construction jobs and more service jobs. Zoning also eliminated long ago the type of places we use to call “flop houses” which could provide shelter for the poor.

9 Snarknado!  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:16:25pm

re: #8 aagcobb

The problem is zoning. Zoning prevents increased density in high income areas, so to provide more lucrative high income housing they have to remove lower income housing. More rich people wanting to move to S.F. ought to be a boon for everyone, creating more construction jobs and more service jobs. Zoning also eliminated long ago the type of places we use to call “flop houses” which could provide shelter for the poor.

It’s much more complicated than that. The reason there’s no high density housing is that any time you want to obstruct a view in San Francisco (which anything over about three stories will do) the neighbors rise up in fury and prevent it from happening. Plus the fact that SF is a peninsula, and there’s no place to expand to. (The area he’s talking about is the flophouse area, and the housing there is comparatively cheap still, though perhaps not after this.) There was something like a balance before the influx of techies, now the people who would “support” the added population and hold the lower-level jobs in the tech industry can’t find housing, and the same level people already living there are being driven out by the influx of the well-heeled.

10 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:17:54pm

re: #9 Snarknado!

It’s much more complicated than that. The reason there’s no high density housing is that any time you want to obstruct a view in San Francisco (which anything over about three stories will do) the neighbors rise up in fury and prevent it from happening. Plus the fact that SF is a peninsula, and there’s no place to expand to. (The area he’s talking about is the flophouse area, and the housing there is comparatively cheap still, though perhaps not after this.) There was something like a balance before the influx of techies, now the people who would “support” the added population and hold the lower-level jobs in the tech industry can’t find housing, and the same level people already living there are being driven out by the influx of the well-heeled.

Then there’s not likely to be a managed solution, since that require people to accept the loss of their fine views in order to accommodate condos for rich Johnny-come-latelys. You’re right that people won’t do that, because it would be too humiliating.

11 sagehen  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:24:19pm

There’s also geographic reasons they can’t build the way NYC does — steep hills in an earthquake zone make it really difficult to anchor a tall building. There’s a smallish flat area, which is already pretty tall; they tried adding land to build on along the bay but it liquified in the last quake and everything fell down, they’d rather not try that again.

12 Snarknado!  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:38:47pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

Then there’s not likely to be a managed solution, since that require people to accept the loss of their fine views in order to accommodate condos for rich Johnny-come-latelys. You’re right that people won’t do that, because it would be too humiliating.

It would require very wealthy people to do same, and I don’t think humiliating is the word I’d choose. Entitled, maybe.

Not to mention it takes years to build a high-rise, and the clock is ticking now.

13 Snarknado!  Wed, Dec 11, 2013 4:42:11pm

re: #11 sagehen

There’s also geographic reasons they can’t build the way NYC does — steep hills in an earthquake zone make it really difficult to anchor a tall building. There’s a smallish flat area, which is already pretty tall; they tried adding land to build on along the bay but it liquified in the last quake and everything fell down, they’d rather not try that again.

I don’t think that’s really the issue — the Richmond and Sunset districts, and the Western Addition are pretty flat and pretty low-rise. Of course the first two were originally sand dunes, which might complicate things (I really don’t know), but they could at least build something taller than the two-story buildings the area is covered with now.


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