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1 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 15, 2013 4:11:08pm

Excellent essay, thanks.

2 Political Atheist  Sun, Dec 15, 2013 5:56:57pm

I see no reason to take a deliberately insincere monument seriously.. It’s just a “gotcha” of no other cultural or religious merit. I still say inclusive exhibits should or even must be allowed. My one exception would be for the insincere, or satirical motive. Nye Nya is hardly an educational or helpful sort of display.

3 Pie-onist Overlord  Sun, Dec 15, 2013 5:58:57pm

“Satanism” like “Wicca” and “Scientology” and “Unification” are totally bogus inventions. Say what you want about Christianity, it’s lasted for thousands of years.

4 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 15, 2013 6:11:52pm

re: #2 Political Atheist

re: #3 Lord of the Pies

My concern is Scalia’s remarks in the McCreary County case:

“With respect to public acknowledgment of religious belief, it is entirely clear from our Nation’s historical practices that the Establishment Clause permits this disregard of polytheists and believers in unconcerned deities, just as it permits the disregard of devout atheists.”

I haven’t looked up his entire opinion & read it, but at a glance I find the wording troubling. Polytheists have been around for at least as long as Christians, if not longer, yet he claims they’re not covered.

What is his definition of “unconcerned deities”? And why does he say it disregards “devout” atheists—again, what does that even mean? Doesn’t the First Amendment cover freedom of religion and from religion?

5 Randall Gross  Sun, Dec 15, 2013 9:42:16pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

I have to agree with you there. Scalia tramples rights with this statement, and Scalia doesn’t even seem to understand that “devout atheist” is an oxymoron.


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