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1 Ace-o-aces  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 9:28:37am

I can’t believe these are serious bids. Do the high bidders have any history?

2 philosophus invidius  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 9:38:28am

Zimmerman’s garbled the pledge of allegiance.

3 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 9:43:54am

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

I can’t believe these are serious bids. Do the high bidders have any history?

The two most active have histories of 2 and 3. Looks like sham bidding to me, but who knows? Someone like Sheldon Adelson might think having the work of a murderer on display would be a draw to his casinos.

4 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 9:44:36am

re: #2 philosophus invidius

Zimmerman’s garbled the pledge of allegiance.

Yeah, I think he forgot to turn on a text layer before he had it printed.

5 philosophus invidius  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 9:48:27am

re: #4 Skip Intro

In keeping with the grade-school mentality of the pledge of allegiance, he also made it into one of those brain teasers where the words “one nation” are under the word “God.” Get it?

6 Joanne  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 10:12:00am

$99 THOUSAND DOLLARS in bids already? Seriously, WTF?

From a fucker that knows nothing about Justice. (spit)

7 Joanne  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 10:19:32am

Know what? There is some serious money to be made from the raging right. I think I need to put on my creative cap and come up with some ignorant right-wing bullshit. If I could coin half of what this louse is, I would be in freaking heaven.

Gus…calling Gus…let’s talk, m’man!

8 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 11:50:16am

Gus was all over this last night… here’s something from another site

Zimmerman Copy Painting

According to further info on the ebay auction page, he did it latex house paint. Why do I have a feeling that the process was something like this…

1. Take copyrighted stock image
2. Put some text on it in Photoshop (or paint for that)
3. Get printed on canvas at WalMart.
4. Paint over it at home.
5. Sell on Ebay.

He did do a nice job of pretty much staying in the lines. The wager I made earlier still stands, if this auction actually closes and he gets paid 99k or more, I’ll dance a polka with a pig on the LFG Stage.

RBS
and at 100,000 he should provide free shipping.

9 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 11:55:55am

This reminds me of the celebrity status afforded war criminal William Calley 40 years ago. A fawning ballad in support of Calley was a number one pop music hit. Georgia governor Jimmy Carter (yes, THAT Jimmy Carter) asked citizens to drive with their lights on to express support for Calley. Calley’s wedding to the daughter of a prominent Atlanta jeweler was the social event of the season. The Army sentenced Calley to life at hard labor, but a firestorm of protest led to his being released after just 3 and a half years of house arrest in his quarters at Fort Benning.

10 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 12:01:46pm

The more I look at it, the more I think that he used a download of the catalog image with the ‘shutterstock’ logo over it. there are some lines and shading that correspond to where parts of the logo would be, but I’m not 100% positive.

This may get interesting.

RBS

11 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:12:37pm

re: #8 RealityBasedSteve

Gus was all over this last night… here’s something from another site

Zimmerman Copy Painting

According to further info on the ebay auction page, he did it latex house paint. Why do I have a feeling that the process was something like this…

1. Take copyrighted stock image
2. Put some text on it in Photoshop (or paint for that)
3. Get printed on canvas at WalMart.
4. Paint over it at home.
5. Sell on Ebay.

He didn’t have to work that hard. Skip step 4 completely (nice lettering for house paint). He probably did paint his name on it, but that’s about it.

12 theheat  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:31:40pm

As far as wingnuts’ Photoshop efforts go, as a whole, I’ve thrown better shit away in my recycle bin.

I suppose I could set up a side effort of throwing together as many dog whistle elements as I could find, add some really stupid fonts, hit frappe, and make a fortune exploiting the shit out of their jingoism and paranoia. Sadly, I can’t bring myself to do it.

13 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:39:22pm

re: #12 theheat

As far as wingnuts’ Photoshop efforts go, as a whole, I’ve thrown better shit away in my recycle bin.

I suppose I could set up a side effort of throwing together as many dog whistle elements as I could find, add some really stupid fonts, hit frappe, and make a fortune exploiting the shit out of their jingoism and paranoia. Sadly, I can’t bring myself to do it.

Is there a “jingofy” filter in PS? Maybe Alien Skins or Digital Anarchy has one.

RBS

14 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:41:13pm

re: #12 theheat

As far as wingnuts’ Photoshop efforts go, as a whole, I’ve thrown better shit away in my recycle bin.

I suppose I could set up a side effort of throwing together as many dog whistle elements as I could find, add some really stupid fonts, hit frappe, and make a fortune exploiting the shit out of their jingoism and paranoia. Sadly, I can’t bring myself to do it.

I bet you didn’t think to put “One Nation” literally under “God” though, did you? That’s what makes it worth so much.

15 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:44:39pm

re: #12 theheat

As far as wingnuts’ Photoshop efforts go, as a whole, I’ve thrown better shit away in my recycle bin.

I suppose I could set up a side effort of throwing together as many dog whistle elements as I could find, add some really stupid fonts, hit frappe, and make a fortune exploiting the shit out of their jingoism and paranoia. Sadly, I can’t bring myself to do it.

Your work would lack a certain “shot a black kid and got lionized for it” quality.

16 theheat  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:46:29pm

re: #13 RealityBasedSteve

re: #14 Skip Intro

I’m so tired of their predictably awful artistic endeavors, and their repetitive design elements of ‘crazy,’ that blindfolded I could tell you what a ‘winner’ in their book will include. They’re as formulaic as a Grisham book.

17 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:55:03pm

It appears that representing a Shutterstock image as your own, even if modified, without giving attribution to Shutterstock is a copyright violation. Selling it is even worse.

I wonder what will happen if someone reports this to Shutterstock?

I guess we’ll find out soon.

18 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 2:04:40pm

re: #17 Skip Intro

It appears that representing a Shutterstock image as your own, even if modified, without giving attribution to Shutterstock is a copyright violation. Selling it is even worse.

BINGO! And, I’m not sure if attribution would be sufficient if he’s trying to sell it for profit without having a Shutterstock license.

Edit: From their FAQ:

If I modify an image, can I claim copyright to that image?
You may modify an image and use it; however, you may not claim copyright to that image. Shutterstock and/or its suppliers continue to own all images, whether or not they have been modified.

Can I sell the images that I download?
You may not sell the images that you download from Shutterstock. You can use them in design elements, but not offer them for resale or distribution.

19 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 2:09:20pm

re: #18 Dr. Matt

BINGO! And, I’m not sure if attribution would be sufficient if he’s trying to sell it for profit without having a Shutterstock license.

You can’t do it even with a license if you don’t give attribution to the original artist/Shutterstock. It’s all right there on the Shutterstock page.

I guess if you just download the thumbnail you might not notice that.

20 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 2:11:14pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

I can’t believe these are serious bids. Do the high bidders have any history?

I was listening to Sirius Progress this morning and they were saying it’s very easy to put up bogus bids.

21 Dr. Matt  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 2:15:43pm

re: #19 Skip Intro

You can’t do it even with a license if you don’t give attribution to the original artist/Shutterstock.

Yes. I agreed with you and provided further documentation that Killermann violated their TOS if indeed he used their photo. The attribution, whether provided or not, is irrelevant since he’s trying to sell a photo that doesn’t belong to him. Moreover, he modified an existing photo which is a violation of their TOS. Wow….bolding is so much fun,

22 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 2:57:06pm

re: #21 Dr. Matt

Wow….>bolding is >so much >fun,

Damn Straight!

23 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 3:51:38pm

re: #19 Skip Intro

You can’t do it even with a license >if you don’t give attribution to the original artist/Shutterstock. It’s all right there on the Shutterstock page.

I guess if you just download the thumbnail you might not notice that.

and when I looked at the thumbnails on their site there are some places where lines in their watermark match very nicely up to some of the lines in the image. He may have not even have gotten the license to the image, but simply used the copyright marked thumb. That’s just speculation on my part, I’m not going to go pixel peeping on this.

Oh, it’s also at 110,100 right now.

RBS

24 theheat  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 4:39:28pm

re: #8 RealityBasedSteve

Better get out your dancing shoes, because the Patriots™ have opened their wallets and are bidding the crap out of this.


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