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1 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 12:15:26pm


I’ll bet they’ll ignore all the mitigating circumstances.

That said these numbers are still rather disheartening. In addition to fighting anti Muslim bigots like Spencer and Geller, or Geert Wilders it sound like more needs to be done to fight bigotry and fanaticism within the European Muslim community as well.

2 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 12:21:21pm


As for anti Muslim bigotry, did you read the comments over there? Some of them are pretty bad.

3 Patricia Kayden  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 12:43:06pm

Kind of shocking that anyone — Christian, Muslim, whatever — would hold their religious beliefs ABOVE the secular laws of the nation in which they live. I consider myself to be very religious (Christian) but believe strongly in the separation of Church and State.

Unfortunately, that telephone survey will just feed the inflammatory rhetoric of bigots like Geller.

4 SidewaysQuark  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 1:08:27pm

Anyone shocked by the results of that survey hasn’t been paying very good attention to people.

5 thecommodore  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 3:15:36pm

re: #2 CriticalDragon1177


As for anti Muslim bigotry, did you read the comments over there? Some of them are pretty bad.

I did indeed. One of them was from someone who seemed to be parroting David Horowitz.

6 thecommodore  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 3:18:55pm

One thing that has fascinated me about this whole issue is how both Islamic extremists and so called “anti-jihadists” take the same fundamentalist view of Islam. It’s easy to see why among Islamic radicals, but the anti-jihadists are supposedly fighting this, and they’re doing the exact same thing.

The best example is when you see someone throwing out words like “jihad,” “taqiyya,” and especially “dhimmi.” Anti-jihadists (aka bigots) distort the true meaning of those words in the exact same way the radicals do.

7 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 9:42:40pm

re: #6 thecommodore

Actually I don’t think even the most extreme Muslim nut job fundamentalist has the same definition of “taqiyya,” as the “counter jihad” people do. The only sort of exception I can think of that would make sense would be if they were Sunni Muslims and they believed in a variant of the “taqiyya” conspiracy theory, that was pretty much the same only they applied it to Shi’a Muslims only.

8 Flounder  Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:03:06am

Did they interview Christians migrating to and living in Muslim countries?

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