Pages

Jump to bottom

9 comments

1 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin  Tue, Dec 24, 2013 9:15:15pm

It’s actually a very good article. I don’t think he is bemoaning the end of “white” rule, so much as the end of the WASP character traits, of putting societies best interests above ones own personal ambitions.

A financier I know who grew up under the WASP standard not long ago told me that he thought that the subprime real estate collapse and the continuing hedge-fund scandals have been brought on directly by men and women who are little more than “greedy pigs” (his words) without a shred of character or concern for their clients or country. Naturally, he added, they all have master’s degrees from the putatively best business schools in the nation.

Thus far in their history, meritocrats, those earnest good students, appear to be about little more than getting on, getting ahead and (above all) getting their own. The WASP leadership, for all that may be said in criticism of it, was better than that.

2 freetoken  Tue, Dec 24, 2013 9:44:41pm
The acronym WASP derives, of course, from White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, but as acronyms go, this one is more deficient than most. Lots of people, including powerful figures and some presidents, have been white, Anglo-Saxon and Protestant but were far from being WASPs. Neither Jimmy Carter nor Bill Clinton qualified.

The writer here is really just rambling on. In any historic meaning of “WASP”, both Carter and Clinton fit.

The author is doing his own form of hagiography, where his “saints” are some long gone more-often-than-not beneficent ruling class.

3 freetoken  Tue, Dec 24, 2013 9:51:20pm

The author looks to be searching for a wider audience for his upcoming book.

Given his past:

In 1970, Epstein wrote an article for Harper’s Magazine called “The Struggle for Sexual Identity,” that was widely criticized for its perceived homophobia, although Harper’s editor Midge Decter defended it as an “elegant and thoughtful account”. Among other things, Epstein wrote, “if I had the power to do so, I would wish homosexuality off the face of the earth, because I consider it a curse, in a literal sense.” He ended the article with

There is much that my four sons can do in their lives that might cause me anguish, that might outrage me, that might make [me] ashamed of them and of myself as their father. But nothing they could ever do would make me sadder than if any of them were to become homosexual.[3][4]

The response of gay writers and readers to Epstein’s piece, including a “sit-in” at Harper’s by members of the Gay Activists Alliance, has been identified as a significant turning point in the gay rights movement of the early 1970s.[5][6]

He sounds like a good fit for the Murdoch WSJ.

4 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin  Tue, Dec 24, 2013 10:21:28pm

re: #3 freetoken

Yeah, a real sweetheart.

5 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Wed, Dec 25, 2013 7:47:14am

The author’s use of “Meritocracy” as a description of today’s ruling class is too vague and ultimately fails in its comprehension of reality. The term traditionally described those who are most proficient at their job, leadership, or academic/work ethic.

However, today a significant portion of America can be described as an “Outrage-ocracy”, where whoever can give voice to and propagate the most emotional outrage (and gains money and power by doing so) leads. This is not a Meritocracy, which is based on reason and ethics. It is based on emotion and structural prejuidices that are not conducive to success on a global playing field. The entire right-wing in America has steadily evolved into an Outrage-ocracy- where classical concepts of Reason need not apply.

6 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Dec 25, 2013 7:57:07am

I’ve got to wonder at a man named Epstein hoping for a return of Wasps running everything. There’s something wrong with an individual who wishes to become a non-person.

I look askance at someone who believes earning your position through merit rather than an accident of birth as well.

7 Ace-o-aces  Wed, Dec 25, 2013 8:34:43am

The fact that Epstein is such a good writer disguises the fact that the piece is a rambling piece of racist BS.

8 ThatPirateGuy  Wed, Dec 25, 2013 10:17:08am

It is rare when I can use this quote!

You’re not the anti-Christ a Sage. You’re only a malcontent who knows how to spell.

Coulmier- Quills

9 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Dec 25, 2013 10:19:32am

re: #1 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin

It’s actually a very good article. I don’t think he is bemoaning the end of “white” rule, so much as the end of the WASP character traits, of putting societies best interests above ones own personal ambitions.

It’s insidious and he’s just lying, the “character traits’ he’s describing are pure bullshit, as are the purported lack of financial collapse and personal political scandal under WASP rule. He’s pretending that shit like the Great Depression and Teapot Dome never happened and weren’t caused by personal greed, that Jim Crow wasn’t just condoned but defended, that WASP government overreach didn’t produce the carnage of Prohibition. It’s all bullshit, personal ambition played a major role in all of that, the personal ambition of the Prohibition gangster, of the racist Southern governors, of the in establishment clique types protecting their own power at the expense of most Americans.

If we know, or at least can prove less about much of the personal scandals of the day it’s because the society was more, not less corrupt, and the same elites controlled much of the press. Throughout most of this entire era Hoover was running the FBI, abusing his power, blackmailing politicians, destroying innocent people’s lives and persecuting civil rights activists like Bayard Rustin, while living a closeted gay life himself.

It’s all about white male rule. The “meritocracy” he bemoans is just code for letting blacks, browns, women and gays into positions of power.


This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2016-01-01 10:29 am PST
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds Tweet

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Square Cash Shop at amazon
as an LGF Associate!
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Interrupters - Get Down Moses (Joe Strummer Cover) Here we are covering "Get Down Moses" for the "A Song For Joe: Celebrating The Birthday Of Joe Strummer" Livestream event on Aug 21, 2020 benefiting #SAVEOURSTAGES You can watch the full show here: YouTube Aimee Interrupter: Lead Vocals ...
Thanos
1 day, 4 hours ago
Views: 218 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 •
#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201025Relentless rain this week. A good bit of localized flooding including the field and around the yard.Most of it had dissipated by Saturday though there are still a few new temporary lakes over at the park. The papaya tree got ...
dangerman
2 days, 20 hours ago
Views: 337 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 4
Tweets: 0 •
#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201018It was a full weekend here at the pond. 8 yards of top soil were (was?) delivered Friday afternoon Saturday was prepping the butterfly bed:First, a good weed whacking, a bit of leveling, then laying down weed barrier.On top of ...
dangerman
6 days, 21 hours ago
Views: 650 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 9
Tweets: 0 •
#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201011The weather held out just long enough that we could start painting the deck. It is tedious work and still quite tiring in the heat.Just one line in the notes says 'paint deck' but it's gonna translate into many, many ...
dangerman
1 week, 5 days ago
Views: 1,078 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 9
Tweets: 0 •
For What It’s Worth - Buffalo Springfield (Cover by Del McCoury Band and Friends) Now Available Digitally:rainmaker.lnk.to See the new release from this jam session of "One Kind Favor" (See That My Grave Is Kept Clean) - Blind Lemon Jeffeson.YouTube A few months ago, a bunch of friends got together to play music ...
Thanos
2 weeks ago
Views: 1,597 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 1 •
Trevor Noah: A Primer on 21st Century “Militias” [VIDEO] A toxic mix of racism and paranoid conspiracy fantasies has propagated the worst among us to arm themselves to the teeth in anticipation for the slaughter of their fellow citizens. Militias have been a part of America since it ...
teleskiguy
2 weeks ago
Views: 1,752 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 2 •
(49) Mandolin Orange - Unknown Legend (Neil Young Cover)Echo Mountain stream. July 24th, 2020.
Thanos
2 weeks ago
Views: 1,723 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 3 •
The Expanse - Season 5 Official Trailer The future of The Belt has begun as Marco Inaros wages Armageddon against the Inners for a lifetime of oppression and injustice. » Watch the new season of The Expanse now exclusively with your Prime Membership: bit.ly» SUBSCRIBE: bit.ly ...
Thanos
2 weeks ago
Views: 1,666 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 3
Tweets: 4 •
Cellist Plays to Mourn Cathedral Shelled in Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict A historic cathedral has been shelled amid the Armenian-Azerbaijan conflict in the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh, or Artsakh, region, where hundreds have been killed and tens of thousands displaced after two weeks of new fighting. On the evening of Thursday 8 ...
garzooma
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 1,509 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 1 •
Future Islands - Born in a War (Official Video) 'Born In A War' by Future Islands Wayne White - Director and Production DesignerWoodrow White - Editor, Co-Director, Co-Production Designer Future Islands’ new album 'As Long As You Are', out now on 4AD. Listen, stream and buy album here: ...
Thanos
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 1,635 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 •