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1 Aunty Entity Dragon  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 3:16:01pm
“Unless you want a blood war….you will lose that too.

So if you don’t get your way, you start shooting. Anytime, pal…anytime. Another internet tough guy and cheeto dust on his fingertips durping about shooting teh evil libruls.

2 ausador  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 3:37:03pm

re: #1 Aunty Entity Dragon

So if you don’t get your way, you start shooting. Anytime, pal…anytime. Another internet tough guy and cheeto dust on his fingertips durping about shooting teh evil libruls.

But liberals are scared of guns and don’t know how to use them, don’t you listen to FOX news? :p

3 Ogami Itto  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 4:29:29pm

As someone who was raised Catholic and attended both CCD and parochial school I never realized that Christmas trees were Christian symbols. Interesting.

4 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 6:13:32pm

re: #1 Aunty Entity Dragon

So if you don’t get your way, you start shooting. Anytime, pal…anytime. Another internet tough guy and cheeto dust on his fingertips durping about shooting teh evil libruls.

I think that post got deleted.

5 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 7:04:07pm

Dear “Freedom From Abridgement Foundation” contrary to what you may think, the “separation of Church” and state isn’t called that, because the people who believe in it hate Christians. It really means that government is supposed to be neutral on religious grounds and it applies to all religions, not just Christianity, and no, enforcing government neutrality when it comes to religion doesn’t equal persecution.

Claiming that people of your religion are being persecuted because they can’t impose it on other people like you would like to, is like saying your “race” is being discriminated against because the law doesn’t let you refuse to serve someone at your diner who isn’t your “race”.

6 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 7:12:26pm

“In additon, any private business, that provides a private and or public service will have complete rights to refuse service to any person or organization based on it’s religious beliefs as well.”

Does he not see the problem with that? Would he mind if say someone pointed out that their sincerely held religious beliefs forbid him from serving interracial couples? Would he mind going back to the days when business owners had a right to discriminate based on basically anything they wanted?

Heck, if we end up with private hospitals like many on the right would want and you had this amendment, why they could just refuse to treat someone based on their “race” or religion or sexual orientation and just let them die, than claim they couldn’t do so based on their religious beliefs. Would you have a problem with that, “Freedom From Abridgement Foundation?”

7 nines09  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 7:15:58pm

Worried about Islamists? Look at these cretins. Same cloth. Same ideas. Same bag of shit wrapped up in “your security and freedom and liberty and puppies and for the love of all things good. To them. You? Piss off.

8 Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 7:27:43pm

re: #1 Aunty Entity Dragon

Wow, I read through all of that. Amazing.

9 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 7:30:27pm

re: #7 nines09

Worried about Islamists? Look at these cretins. Same cloth. Same ideas. Same bag of shit wrapped up in “your security and freedom and liberty and puppies and for the love of all things good. To them. You? Piss off.

I know, there’s almost no real chance of an Islamist take over of the west, especially America, where last time I checked, Muslims were less than one percent of our population. Even we believe the absurd nonsense that all Muslims are out to turn every country in the world in an Islamic theocracy, it would be almost impossible for them to do so in the US. Truth be told that I wouldn’t be surprised if “Freedom From Abridgement Foundation” actually believed that passing “anti sharia” laws were necessary to stop our courts from using it. Meanwhile the first amendment is one of the things already preventing them from doing so. Ironically its the very part of the first amendment that would specifically forbid it, that he wants to get rid of.

Talk about out of touch with reality.

10 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 7:44:19pm

I really like Bill Santagata’s reply to “Freedom From Abridgement Foundation’s” idea

I can tell by the tone of your writing that you think what you’re saying is in proper legalese…but…no.

If you want to make Christianity the official religion of the government, then just say so.

Section 1. Christianity is the established religion of the United States of America.
Section 2. No amendment to this Constitution shall repeal or modify this article of amendment.

There, that accomplishes the exact same thing.

Two major problems with your amendment: 1. it mentions the “Congresses” of the 50 states: the state legislatures are not called “Congress” but in any event, mentioning 50 states would either prevent us from ever admitting another state, or else any future state would not be subject to this amendment.

2. By reversing all Supreme Court decisions on the Establishment Clause you would also be reversing some decisions that you would be favorable to (e.g. Lynch v. Donnelly, Van Orden v. Perry, Marsh v. Chambers)

11 Chrysicat  Thu, Jan 2, 2014 8:09:33pm

re: #5 CriticalDragon1177

Funny you should mention ‘discrimination’ of that sort. Just ask Rand Paul—that’s exactly what the modern conservative sees it to be if the law forbids them refusing service based on color :-P

12 sauceruney  Fri, Jan 3, 2014 1:01:05am

It’s not rape if Jesus gives a wink and a nod.
//

13 BusyMonster  Fri, Jan 3, 2014 7:15:20am

re: #2 ausador

But liberals are scared of guns and don’t know how to use them, don’t you listen to FOX news? :p

I think that is hilarious. I’m not scared of guns … I just despise the laziness and cowardice they usually engender. And I think guys who chatter this kind of madness over the intertubes are the least-likely to actually have the balls to put their butts on the line for something they believe in.

14 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Jan 3, 2014 10:53:53am

Theocrats of any flavor do not belong in government.

15 CriticalDragon1177  Fri, Jan 3, 2014 11:13:34am

re: #14 FemNaziBitch

I agree. If you ever meet someone who is a big supporter of “Freedom From Abridgement Foundation’s” idea, just ask him to replace the word “Christianity” with the word for any other religion, say “Islam,” and ask him if he would still support it.


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