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1 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 15, 2014 6:19:01am

Well then they are very wrong, and in obvious need of a correction. Secret, unaccountable and arrogant. What could go wrong?

2 mr.JA  Wed, Jan 15, 2014 8:50:29am
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judges have said the creation of a privacy advocate in the secret court could be counterproductive and hamper its work.
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Well yeah, and allowing counsel for suspects also ‘hampers’ the work of prosecutors, so do we ban those too from court? The whole IDEA behind the privacy advocate is to ‘hamper’ the court and to guard privacy, WTF is this reaction.

They also warn against release of court opinions, stating that the government may often want to redact the opinion to conceal from the public details about how a surveillance is conducted, as it could provide tips for evasion to intelligence targets. Redacted opinions may not have the “factual context” required to understand the reasoning and results of court opinions, the judges said.

This is at heart what is wrong with the FISA court - it is a bloody catch-22. The opinions are secret because of secret intelligence, but we won’t allow a release of a redacted copy because then the opinion can be misinterpreted - what the actual fuck.

These FISA reaction are a QED why there is a need for a privacy advocate at the court.

3 BusyMonster  Wed, Jan 15, 2014 8:55:29am
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judges have said the creation of a privacy advocate in the secret court could be counterproductive and hamper its work.

Humm. Let’s not make it up to you assholes, then. Because it isn’t about YOU. This is OUR privacy, and by the way it is OUR country too.

4 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 15, 2014 10:49:47am

re: #3 BusyMonster

Humm. Let’s not make it up to you assholes, then. Because it isn’t about YOU. This is OUR privacy, and by the way it is OUR country too.

True. The problem is that altering the workings of the FISA court would need to come from Congress and the Tea Party Caucus would pitch a fit at the idea of creating an advocate position to be filled by someone nominated by Barack Obama.

5 jvic  Wed, Jan 15, 2014 1:23:04pm

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judges have said the creation of a privacy advocate in the secret court could be counterproductive and hamper its work.

The FISA judges are overburdened already. Wielding those rubber stamps is hard.

6 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 15, 2014 8:50:04pm

If these secret court judges actually had the balance and public minded mindset that is claimed on their behalf, they would not object. Think of this as the inside out version of “If you are doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about” argument.

Just saying “secret court” in the context of American justice seems an oxymoron. Now it’s a secret court that is openly resisting a smidgen of additional oversight. Take that in for a moment.


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