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1 Rob H  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 12:16:57pm

Of course actual Palestinians on the ground aren’t supporting the ridiculous BDS movement. Even Omar Barghouti, one of its founders, benefits from Israel as a perpetual student at Tel Aviv University (some boycotter he is).

And the distorted lens through which Israel is viewed by the world can, IMHO, basically be summed up in one photo. And it ain’t pretty (or is depending on your perspective).

It’s called Pallywood and it happens every day. Photographers and videographers make a good living capturing BS like this. And why not? They know (unlike in Syria) they’re not really going to be exposed to any combat situations. All they have to do is focus and staged photos like this are easily captured. Sent around the world to gullible masses willing to eat them up as proof positive of Israel’s cruelty and oppression. But of course everything is not as it seems. Furthermore, one thing I always find interesting are the ones wearing helmets. Suppose they don’t want to get hit in the head when the rocks do start flying in their direction.

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2 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 12:22:50pm

re: #1 Rob H

Welcome, hatchling.

3 Ace-o-aces  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 1:04:41pm

I’m sorry, but it sounds like these Palastinians work there because they lack opportunities in the West Bank, and Israeli companies are using them a source of cheap labor. It don’t see this doing much to help the Palastinian economy.

4 PeterWolf  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 2:40:17pm

Orwell’s Notes on Nationalism is a superb piece.

5 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 2:50:49pm

re: #3 Ace-o-aces

Did you miss this?

Previously, he earned 20 shekels ($6) a day plucking and cleaning chickens; now he makes nearly 10 times that at SodaStream, which also provides transportation, breakfast, and lunch.

6 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 4:08:52pm

re: #5 Political Atheist

Did you miss this?

Previously, he earned 20 shekels ($6) a day plucking and cleaning chickens; >now he makes nearly 10 times that at SodaStream, which also provides transportation, breakfast, and lunch.

Indeed. Two meals plus transportation ads a great deal of value. Moreover, the fact that the factory is being run under Israeli law is a very good thing for the Palestinians who work there. Israel enforces its labor laws honestly, and those laws protect those workers from facing demands for kickbacks from their wages, requirements that they work unpaid overtime and other types of dishonest practices that are sadly common in places with corrupt governments.

Believe me, the Palestinians working in this factory have good jobs by the standards of the West Bank and are treated decently by their employers.

7 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 4:21:36pm

One more thing I need to on this matter:


It is indeed sad that that the Palestinians working at this factory could only find good jobs from Israelis, but that situation is not Israel’s fault. The fault lies in the fecklessness and corruption of the Palestinian Authority, which makes most economic growth in the West Bank impossible. Those who seek to better the lot of the Palestinians should first devote themselves to reforming the entity that governs them. Because until that is done, the best employers for West Bank Palestinians will continue to be Israelis.

8 PeterWolf  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 5:08:52pm

So, Israel is guiltless and everything is the fault of the Palestinians?

I guess those Vietnamese Nike workers are thankful for their jobs too.

9 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 6:04:57pm

re: #8 PeterWolf

Downding for putting words is RWC’s mouth and my own. Neither one of us said that. Israeli settlers have behaved badly on a number of recent occasions, its a fact. But it is also a fact that the Israeli-owned SodaStream factory in question is a good thing for the Palestinians who work there. They get decent-paying, honest employment and that’s more important than political point-scoring.

This isn’t about “Israel versus Palestine”, this is about The Rule of Law versus Corruption.

10 Ace-o-aces  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 6:36:29pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Moreover, the fact that the factory is being run under Israeli law is a very good thing for the Palestinians who work there. Israel enforces its labor laws honestly, and those laws protect those workers from facing demands for kickbacks from their wages, requirements that they work unpaid overtime and other types of dishonest practices that are sadly common in places with corrupt governments.

From the article:

While Israeli labor laws technically apply in the settlements, labor rights organization Kav LaOved says it is poorly enforced. Inspections, which are considered the essence of labor law enforcement, are reportedly sparse. Abed Dari, the organization’s field coordinator in the Jordan Valley and Mishor Adumim, the industrial zone where SodaStream’s factory is located, estimates that 95 percent of Palestinian employees of Israeli businesses in those areas do not earn the minimum wage of 4,300 shekels ($1,230).

(Although, in fairness, he goes on to say SodaStream does follow the law)

And while Palestinian corruption is a big problem to be sure, there are plenty of Israeli policies that restrict the Palestinian economy.

11 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 7:05:40pm

re: #8 PeterWolf

So, Israel is guiltless and everything is the fault of the Palestinians?

I guess those Vietnamese Nike workers are thankful for their jobs too.

Whew. Not just a strawman, but the whole scarecrow goin on here.

12 PeterWolf  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 8:03:20pm

re: #11 Political Atheist

Whew. Not just a strawman, but the whole scarecrow goin on here.

No, I just find such simplistic views amusing. One image from ‘Pallywood’ attempts to turn the Palestinian issue into make believe. The factory itself, might be a little cause for contention, as are the settlements, something to do with rights.

13 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 8:18:35pm

re: #12 PeterWolf

You need to know who you’re talking to, because RWC isn’t simplistic like that at all. But like me he doesn’t have a lot of patience for anti-Israel bullshit, which is what the attacks on SodaStream have been.

14 rosiee  Fri, Jan 31, 2014 4:58:07am

re: #13 Dark_Falcon

endorsed by the usual litany of left-wing populists

15 rosiee  Fri, Jan 31, 2014 10:05:32pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Israeli settlers have been framed in many cases.
Palestinians will cut the olive trees down and then spray paint hebrew on them as a false flag.
And the media eats it up.
Link

16 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 1, 2014 2:19:10am

re: #15 rosiee

Israeli settlers have been framed in many cases.
Palestinians will cut the olive trees down and then spray paint hebrew on them as a false flag.
And the media eats it up.
Link

Geeze, but that’s sick. Destroying your own crops to blame somebody else. The hate that takes is just damn unnatural.


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