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1 EiMitch  Thu, Jan 30, 2014 9:34:00pm

TL:DR - When patients can’t speak for themselves and regulations are relatively scant, snake-oil sales skyrocket. Utterly disgusting, but not surprising.

2 BusyMonster  Fri, Jan 31, 2014 10:41:32am

re: #1 EiMitch

TL:DR - When patients can’t speak for themselves and regulations are relatively scant, snake-oil sales skyrocket. Utterly disgusting, but not surprising.

Yea, this is a not very shocking story. As with many areas of our society, it seems like grifters and con-artists have just horned in on the action and driven out everyone who actually does work.

3 Political Atheist  Fri, Jan 31, 2014 1:20:02pm

re: #1 EiMitch

This time TLDR means missed point.

The drug companies don’t do the studies for animals. So we don’t know how much aspirin or ibuprofen might work well without undue risk. So the vet says NSAIDS are unavailable. But still, I’d love to see a pharmacology expert just do the math to scale a dose to 10lb pet scale. I’d rather take a small risk with my cat than leave them to suffer, just doped up in pain.

4 Norbrook  Sat, Feb 1, 2014 9:26:59am

One of the problems is that it’s mostly the veterinary colleges that do this sort of research, and to be honest, funding for it is difficult to find if at all. It’s also … difficult … to conduct good controlled studies.

Another big problem has been the popularity of the “naturopathic” medicine woo pitched by various human doctors, and people tend to take that as “well, it must be good for my beloved pet!” as well as themselves. Back about 25 years ago, I got into a memorable battle with a columnist for a dog magazine, who was pitching various homeopathic remedies. The editor ended up publishing my letters as counter points. I wasn’t nice about my opinion, either.

Sadly, it often comes down to “well, try this.” There are species differences, and even within a species, breed or variety differences that can mean something works, or it doesn’t.

5 blueraven  Sat, Feb 1, 2014 12:22:57pm

My beloved 15 year old, mixed breed, shelter adopted dog died a few months ago. He was a big boy…at this peak weighing about 85lbs.

Last summer I found him on the patio, called to him and he could not get up. His back legs were too weak to support him. Got help to get him inside and to the Vet the next day.

The Vet started him on some doggie profen (Carprofen), 75 mg twice a day. It took a few days, but then he was able to get up on his own and get around fairly well. Even on occasion making a lame attempt at chasing the deer.
Alas, over the next months he would have good days and not so good days…lost some weight, which was a good thing, but generally was in pretty good shape for his age.

The last week was painful. He couldn’t get up half the time, was refusing to eat and the last day refusing to drink. I made “the dreaded appointment” for the next day. He died at home the next morning only an hour before time to take him in. Thank goodness it was peaceful and we were there with him.

The Carprofen did help, his last months were good for the most part. But there are limitations, especially in a dog of this age. There was probably a point in time when I should have given up well before that last week. It is hard to let them go. My kids grew up with him. He is part of our family story.


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