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1 Egregious Philbin  Tue, Feb 4, 2014 8:45:31pm

Ham never ever addressed any practical question thrown at him, the ark, the complexity of life, dating of the age of the earth, the number of species, etc.

Creationists always lose, because, they always have to say “then a supernatural miracle happened” to prove their nonsense.

2 aagcobb  Wed, Feb 5, 2014 5:50:40am

Ham is incapable of being embarrassed. Ham won, because he got invaluable free national publicity, which is likely to produce a windfall of donations from fundies for Answers in Genesis.

3 mr.JA  Wed, Feb 5, 2014 7:14:11am

It was a little frustrating to watch since both speakers had so long to defend their viewpoints.
I don’t like listening to someone for 30 minutes on end, and it makes a debate more into a ‘who’s got the best powerpoint presentation’ competition (which Ken Ham won easily, if I’m honest).

I feel Bill Nye did a good job, but he was all over the place (also due to the structure of the debate) - astrophysics, evolution, carbon dating, mutation rates - this must have made it confusing for the average viewer.
I would have preferred a debate much more about specifics, or if Bill would have focussed on one particular topic - I would have loved a more focussed approach, instead of this format that invites the speakers to go off tangents easily.

4 SteveMcGazi  Wed, Feb 5, 2014 8:26:34am

“…insane people were suddenly given a voice in mainstream politics thanks to the tea party.”

They were given the voice by the cowardly Republican Party that was grasoing at any straw available for more power.

5 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Wed, Feb 5, 2014 9:37:12am

I still say Bill Nye should have brought an Exxon oil corporation geologist and an Army General in charge of weapons procurement to explain to the audience that hard Science is invaluable to the cornerstone structures of the right wing- oil and the military.

The geologist could explain that rock layer analysis can indeed date soil and rocks to millions and millions of years old. He could explain that accurate dating of strata means getting more oil for our country, and that fossils and evidence of prehistoric artifacts are indeed found at specific and predictable layers as a routine part of the job.

The Army General could explain that hard science is crucial to weapons systems development that allows the right to celebrate our country’s ability to drop bombs and kill people. He could explain that the Speed of Light is a fundamental principle of how GPS works and that this system must also be programmed to compensate for Einstein’s theories.

It is a studied phenomenon that the right wing does not listen to hard facts and evidence as much as they pay attention to exactly WHO is delivering the message.

An egghead in a bow-tie is not someone the right idolizes. This is someone they beat up in high school. The two basic fundamental structural cornerstones of America’s Right Wing- the Oil industry and the Military, would be the best way to gain their attention and deliver the message that needs to be conveyed.

6 team_fukit  Wed, Feb 5, 2014 11:35:32am

Not that he was incorrect necessarily, but I think Nye was stuck on some Scopes Trial trip. Why is he confounded that a fundamentalist would be able to and does use a cell phone or a computer? Hell, some of them even fly planes and use explosives.

Nye needs to figure out that Christian fundamentalism has “evolved” too, even since the 1970s.


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