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1 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 2:05:05pm

*facepalm*

2 palmerskiss  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 2:07:49pm
“1) Do you understand the difference between science and faith?

Right back at you! It takes more faith to believe in evolution, and may scientists even use the term faith to describe their believe in “missing links”. The real question is “Where you there?””

is it that they do not understand what “observation”really means?

3 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 2:07:58pm

re: #1 CuriousLurker

>*facepalm*

It is telling that there is no way to be sure if these answers are from a Creationist or from a parodist deliberately trying to give the stupidest possible answers.

The presence of a few bone-headed typos (e.g., copies of the NT from 1000 BC when ‘OT’ was probably meant) may be the best evidence that this is genuine.

4 Snarknado!  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 2:20:33pm

re: #2 palmerskiss

is it that they do not understand what “observation”really means?

Is it that Christian schools do not teach spelling?

5 palmerskiss  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 2:27:51pm

re: #4 Snarknado!

Is it that Christian schools do not teach spelling?

:D well in all honesty i missed the superfluous ‘h’ -nice catch though :)

6 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 2:42:15pm

re: #3 EPR-radar

It is telling that there is no way to be sure if these answers are from a Creationist or from a parodist deliberately trying to give the stupidest possible answers.

The presence of a few bone-headed typos (e.g., copies of the NT from 1000 BC when ‘OT’ was probably meant) may be the best evidence that this is genuine.

It is indeed difficult to tell, but I agree the typos do help make it sound genuine, as does the insufferably self-congratulatory “gotcha!” tone of the answers.

Those kind of people almost make me want to provoke them by using the exact same tone to dance around telling them that MY religion is better than THEIRS, my Truth™ is truer, but… nah, waste of time & effort.

I spent my first half dozen or so years as a Muslim getting annoyed by and eventually provoking the Salafi hardliner types that always seemed to be giving me unsolicited “brotherly” advice. Ninety-nine percent of the time the only thing trying to have an honest conversation with them resulted in was red-faced, screaming fights and complaints about my “big mouth”, so I eventually gave up and resorted to sarcasm.

It worked once they understood that I was done and they weren’t gonna get anything else from then on. Fundies want you to argue earnestly with them so they can show you how wrong you are (because they are never, ever wrong—they know this because they’re certain God told them so).

7 Decatur Deb  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 3:30:12pm

At UK (the university, not the kingdom) it was sometimes necessary to assign the nicest, most simpatico archaeology grad student to explain to dig visitors: “No mam, that stratigraphic layer is not really evidence of the Flood.”

8 Skip Intro  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 4:10:27pm

re: #3 EPR-radar

It is telling that there is no way to be sure if these answers are from a Creationist or from a parodist deliberately trying to give the stupidest possible answers.

The presence of a few bone-headed typos (e.g., copies of the NT from 1000 BC when ‘OT’ was probably meant) may be the best evidence that this is genuine.

People used to create “artificial intelligence” programs that responded like this. For every question, the program would rephrase the question or ask a variation. Never, ever, would you get an answer.

9 Floral Giraffe  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 4:18:07pm

Wish I had more than one upding to give!

10 cat-tikvah  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 4:59:32pm

I’m still waiting for the fundamentalist answer to this question: If the Bible is literally true, word for word, then why are the first two chapters of Genesis, right off the bat, two different accounts of creation that don’t correspond? One is the “Adam’s rib” story, the other has God creating man an woman at the same time. Nor does the sequence of creation match.

I asked my fundamentalist mother-in-law that question. One, she didn’t know there were two different stories; two, she had no answer.

11 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 5:01:42pm

re: #10 cat-tikvah

I’m still waiting for the fundamentalist answer to this question: If the Bible is literally true, word for word, then why are the first two chapters of Genesis, right off the bat, two different accounts of creation that don’t correspond? One is the “Adam’s rib” story, the other has God creating man an woman at the same time. Nor does the sequence of creation match.

I asked my fundamentalist mother-in-law that question. One, she didn’t know there were two different stories; two, she had no answer.

Simple answer. The real authority for fundamentalists is themselves or whichever preacher they’ve decided to sublet all brain functions to.

The Bible is irrelevant, except as a prop to be thumped to distract from this fact.

12 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 7:20:54pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

At UK (the university, not the kingdom) it was sometimes necessary to assign the nicest, most simpatico archaeology grad student to explain to dig visitors: “No mam, that stratigraphic layer is not really evidence of the Flood.”

That certainly would have been a lousy assignment to give to me if I were in an archaeology program in school.

13 sagehen  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 8:04:43pm

re: #10 cat-tikvah

I asked my fundamentalist mother-in-law that question. One, she didn’t know there were two different stories; two, she had no answer.

So she believes in the total literal truth, word for word, of something she hasn’t read and doesn’t actually know what words are in there?

I think we’ve found the problem.

14 jhrhv  Fri, Mar 28, 2014 10:00:22pm

The big difference between faith and science is one is just that faith. There is no actual evidence or proof.

Science does “prophecy” and gets it right by looking at recorded history learning from that and being able to correctly predict outcomes into the future based on fact and evidence.

It isn’t prayer it’s intelligence. It’s isn’t fantasy it is hard work done over time with predictable logical outcomes.

15 Flounder  Sat, Mar 29, 2014 5:00:53am

I didn’t even get through the first sentence of the response, and I stopped. Someone came unarmed in a duel of wits.

16 hellosnackbar  Sat, Mar 29, 2014 6:32:10am

Every time creationists try to justify their totally blind faith they appear to justify their belief in imaginary fairies.
A long time ago when my Christianbrother teacher said there were remains of Noah’s ark .I asked him where all the water creating the flood had come from?
And where it had gone thereafter.
I was sent to see the headmaster on this issue and was threatened with expulsion.
The same Teacher described Charles Darwin as a person of below average intelligence!
This was a demonstration of the poisonous mental inculcation of those who are involved in the promotion of religious fantasy!

17 Decatur Deb  Sat, Mar 29, 2014 7:13:33am

re: #12 EPR-radar

That certainly would have been a lousy assignment to give to me if I were in an archaeology program in school.

Public university, federal (taxpayer) contract. Sometimes you have to attack ignorance with a dental pick, not a shovel or trowel.

18 b_sharp  Sat, Mar 29, 2014 7:41:40am

re: #2 palmerskiss

is it that they do not understand what “observation”really means?

My take on that.

19 b_sharp  Sat, Mar 29, 2014 7:44:51am

re: #17 Decatur Deb

Public university, federal (taxpayer) contract. Sometimes you have to attack ignorance with a dental pick, not a shovel or trowel.

I’d attack it with a heavy fossil.

20 Decatur Deb  Sat, Mar 29, 2014 7:49:53am

re: #19 b_sharp

I’d attack it with a heavy fossil.

One that the creator put there to fool godless dirt-sifters?

21 TDG2112  Sat, Mar 29, 2014 8:23:08am

I’m not very impressed by the questions to be honest. They are all in the mode of “Do you realize how stupid you are?”

For example: “Do you understand the difference between science and faith?”
OF COURSE the respondent has their own understanding of the difference between faith and science. Just listen to Ken Ham from the creationist museum debating Bill Nye. The question simply isn’t going to result in any kind of intelligent answer.

More revealing would be to ask the question of “explain your understanding of the difference between science and faith.” The answer won’t be too much different, and equally laughable. But at least the question wouldn’t be so condescending.

22 De Kolta Chair  Sat, Mar 29, 2014 1:01:53pm

Only one Nazi analogy? That’s disappointing.


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