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1 Dark_Falcon  Mar 30, 2014 5:07:11pm

I don’t think Indiana is the first on this. I read elsewhere that Massachusetts and Pennsylvania both decided against implementing Common Core as well.

2 Chrysicat  Mar 30, 2014 7:09:06pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

I think you missed the key phrase in the article: “withdraw after joining.”

Those other states never accepted Common Core in the first place.

3 Rameau  Mar 30, 2014 7:15:27pm

Diane Ravitch, who opposes privatizing the safety net, rightly sees locally controlled public education as part of it. One can’t help being suspicious of educational reforms from which powerful reformers shield their own children. Whether Pence comes up with anything better remains to be seen.

4 wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window  Mar 30, 2014 8:17:18pm

re: #3 Rameau

Diane Ravitch, who opposes privatizing the safety net, rightly sees locally controlled public education as part of it. One can’t help being suspicious of educational reforms from which powerful reformers shield their own children. Whether Pence comes up with anything better remains to be seen.

Ravitch distrusts the corporate influence on testing to Common Core objectives. I am not sure she opposes the Common Core outright. The CC is not about privatizing education. It’s intended to be used in public schools by public school teachers.

The CC has many good points, one being a common set of educational goals for all schools in the USA, and a standard model curriculum. I know there are many who view it as unwarranted intrusion into education by the federal government, but as Pence has just demonstrated, it’s not being forced on anyone. Even within the standards, there is some flexibility in teaching approaches.

I am not sure what you mean by “powerful reformers” shielding their children from educational reforms. Who are you talking about?

5 Rameau  Mar 30, 2014 10:30:56pm

What I said about powerful reformers was based on the following:
washingtonpost.com

I am in agreement with your description of Ravitch’s attitude to Common Core.

6 Rameau  Mar 30, 2014 10:34:12pm

The web site reference should have been
washingtonpost.com

7 Rameau  Mar 30, 2014 10:37:00pm

Last try: google “common core private school” and read the post by Valerie Strauss for the point about powerful reformers.

8 Randall Gross  Mar 31, 2014 8:01:24am

There will always be a “higher tier” of education for the wealthy, common core is not at those private schools because they have higher standards than common core.

When you set a standard you must adhere to reality first - so most standards are based on minimums, not maximums. You set a minimum floor with common core (must know at least x, y, z,) and you do not try to set it at the perceived high ceiling of education that people sending their children to private schools most often seek.

9 Rameau  Mar 31, 2014 8:52:59am

My examples of a “higher tier” are Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, and the like, not the private schools of the wealthy.

Compromise with reality should be designed with decisive contributions from those who know it best because they actually teach in it.


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