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1 palmerskiss  Apr 11, 2014 3:59:35pm

thank you for this resource - nuance is important!

Radicalization of Youth as a Growing Concern for Counter-Terrorism Policy

In Ireland - in the late 90’s and early 2000’s, they lobbied us pretty heavy against use of violence and terrorism. By this period they had a good handle on what was creating new recruits for all the many paramilitary groups operating in both the north and the south. Most of the programs used information and personal meetings to change the dynamic. Books on the conflict, including fiction (love and drama novels say between protestants and catholics were required reading in schools), school trips across sectarian lines replaced trips to “Waterford Crystal” and “Dublin Zoo”…

I am not really in a position whether to suggest it worked, how well it worked, what other factors came in to play, etc. I can give my own personal anecdotal experience that it helps, that it humanizes the other side, and that it de-radicalizes youth.

I can point to the tentative peace that is a decade old. And i can point to how the views and opinions of myself and my peers in regards to the troubles have changed over that decade.

i will be devouring this archive - so thank you :)

2 palmerskiss  Apr 11, 2014 4:01:23pm

this one -

fascinating - and plays right into my research. I cannot thank you enough for this page and hope you post more of this ilk in the future. :)

3 CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2014 4:55:22pm

re: #1 palmerskiss

The subject of the troubles has come up a few times here in the past, so it’ll be very interesting to hear about your experiences if it ever comes up again.

re: #2 palmerskiss

this one - [Embedded content]

fascinating - and plays right into my research. I cannot thank you enough for this page and hope you post more of this ilk in the future. :)

Excellent! I’m glad you found some of it helpful. I’ve posted other resources in the past, but things tend to get a bit scattered about after a few years. I’ll have to sit down and see if I can make a list and keep them linked to each other.

There’s some really good, serious stuff out there, but unfortunately it tends to be the extreme fear mongering crap with a political agenda that attracts all the attention and sells books galore. That hateful, hysterical nonsense isn’t going to make the world a better or safer place for anyone.

4 palmerskiss  Apr 11, 2014 5:23:49pm

re: #3 CuriousLurker

The subject of the troubles has come up a few times here in the past, so it’ll be very interesting to hear about your experiences if it ever comes up again.

Excellent! I’m glad you found some of it helpful. I’ve posted other resources in the past, but things tend to get a bit scattered about after a few years. I’ll have to sit down and see if I can make a list and keep them linked to each other.

There’s some really good, serious stuff out there, but unfortunately it tends to be the extreme fear mongering crap with a political agenda that attracts all the attention and sells books galore. That hateful, hysterical nonsense isn’t going to make the world a better or safer place for anyone.

agreed - and I know walking that rope between - informing yourself, being interested in the world, having empathy and trying to affect change while remaining nuanced and dispersonal and willing is a really difficult task.

We naturally want to form opinions and come to easy conclusions, the harder work is letting the information dictate how you change rather than you changing the contexts to fit your own conclusions.

I work at this - the tempering of the bleeding heart with a curious mind.

it takes energy and time to gift information and context to others - and people take it for granted. I do appreciate it - and i make the effort to not take it for granted in return :)

5 CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2014 5:50:56pm

re: #4 palmerskiss

We naturally want to form opinions and come to easy conclusions, the harder work is letting the information dictate how you change rather than you changing the contexts to fit your own conclusions.

THIS. I think we all have a tendency towards confirmation bias, and easy conclusions make us feel safe and in control. For example having a bogeyman—we want to be able to identify him and tell ourselves that everything will be okay if we can just neutralize him. The thing is, it’s nothing but a game of whack-a-mole and no sooner do we slay him than another pops up to replace him. Today it’s Islam; when I was young it was the USSR; for my parents it was the Nazis & other European fascists. Twenty years down the road who knows who “it” will be? The one thing we know for sure is that the monster must always exist.

I work at this - the tempering of the bleeding heart with a curious mind.

Ah yes, me too. ;o)

6 wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2014 6:09:36pm

Upding for the footnote. I haven’t read the rest yet.

7 CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2014 6:12:01pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

LOL, I was trying to fight off a snark attack.

8 klys  Apr 11, 2014 6:33:33pm

re: #7 CuriousLurker

LOL, I was trying to fight off a snark attack.

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I should probably add a // or two.


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