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1 klys  Apr 29, 2014 4:24:20pm

Apparently (and this is not on you but on Wired), links to the actual paper are overrated.

Which means I am still left with a whole lot of unanswered questions regarding methodology, assumptions, and once again have the conclusion that the majority of science journalism sucks.

2 Rightwingconspirator  Apr 29, 2014 4:36:41pm

re: #1 klys

Apparently (and this is not on you but on Wired), links to the actual paper are overrated.

Which means I am still left with a whole lot of unanswered questions regarding methodology, assumptions, and once again have the conclusion that the majority of science journalism sucks.

Thanks, I guess all we can do is await further work. Honestly i’d be surprised if this were really in error rather than a debate about how far this has gone.

3 klys  Apr 29, 2014 4:43:14pm

re: #2 Political Atheist

Thanks, I guess all we can do is await further work. Honestly i’d be surprised if this were really in error rather than a debate about how far this has gone.

I don’t know? It is one of the tricky things. Just some of the big questions the Wired article doesn’t answer, but the paper might:

If we’re using damage estimates to provide estimates of windspeed, how is he accounting for storms where there was little damage to the relative observed windspeed? (See the debate over the rating of the May 31 2013 El Reno storm for an idea of how this plays out.) Also relevant to that question is the fact that as this area becomes more built up, there are more things out there to damage. If a tornado goes through a field in the night and is never reported …well, that’s less often happening these days, thanks to the ability to observe on radar and more substantial followup, but it has the possibility to have skewed earlier statistics.

I certainly believe that anthropogenic climate change is happening, but I’m not convinced that this is yet at the level of good, statistically-sound science. Which is not to say that it won’t ever be, but again, there’s some serious scientific questions to be asked and I can’t see how they were addressed in the paper because Wired doesn’t think they need to provide a link to it.


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