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1 Randall Gross  May 9, 2014 1:56:50pm

65,000? Where are you getting this from?

2 Rightwingconspirator  May 9, 2014 2:25:41pm

re: #1 Randall Gross

Violence Policy Center. So I believe this to be an acceptable number for discussion.

Comparing NCVS Data to Claims that Guns are Used in Self-Defense 2.5 Million Times a Year
Using the NCVS numbers, for the five-year period 2007 through 2011, the total number of self-protective behaviors involving a firearm by victims of attempted or completed violent crimes or property crimes totaled only 338,700.

338,700 divided by 5 is 67,000+

I find that to be far and away too many to dismiss.

3 Rightwingconspirator  May 9, 2014 2:45:20pm

BTW thinking about a bigger page that would flesh out this data from the Sturdevant study that was done in Texas.

Licensees were 5.7 times less likely to be arrested for violent offenses than the general public - 127 per 100,000 population versus 730 per 100,000.
Licensees were 14 times less likely to be arrested for nonviolent offenses than the general public - 386 per 100,000 population versus 5,212 per 100,000.
Further, the general public is 1.4 times more likely to be arrested for murder than licensees [ see Figure I ], and no licensee had been arrested for negligent manslaughter.
This is unsurprising, since the standards for getting a concealed carry license in Texas are the strictest in the nation. One must be at least 21 years of age, submit a photo and fingerprints for a background check, pay a $140 fee and take ten to fourteen hours of coursework. In addition, applicants must pass both a written test covering laws pertaining to deadly force and gun safety and a shooting accuracy test. Even with all of these hurdles, more than 200,000 Texans have received concealed carry permits.

4 Randall Gross  May 9, 2014 3:10:33pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

Violence Policy Center. So I believe this to be an acceptable number for discussion.

338,700 divided by 5 is 67,000+

I find that to be far and away too many to dismiss.

Yay! & Thanks, I was looking for stats like this last year, could not find anything near valid.

5 Rightwingconspirator  May 9, 2014 4:38:43pm

re: #4 Randall Gross

Yay! & Thanks, I was looking for stats like this last year, could not find anything near valid.

Glad to help, I just wish they had even mentioned the potential under reporting of incidents short of shots fired.


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