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1 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 4:47:35pm
He has also proposed outlawing Islam and deporting Muslims and other “non-Western, non-Christian” people to protect the United States’ “national character.”

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Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Yerushalmi Jewish, like Geller?

Is he planning on deporting himself and Geller? I could get behind that.

And thanks for bringing this to my attention. I didn’t realize how many truly repugnant people are in Geller’s orbit before.

2 CuriousLurker  May 20, 2014 4:57:03pm

re: #1 Skip Intro

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Yerushalmi Jewish, like Geller?

Is he planning on deporting himself and Geller? I could get behind that.

Heh, yep, he’s also Jewish. In fact I think Yerushalmi = (of/from) Jerusalem.

And thanks for bringing this to my attention. I didn’t realize how many truly repugnant people are in Geller’s orbit before.

You’re welcome. It’s pretty bizarre, the people they’ve chosen to associate with.

3 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 4:58:19pm

Good - I hope they lost a lot of money.

4 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 5:02:04pm

There’s a lesson here. Don’t choose your lawyer solely because he’s as big a racist bigot as you are. Or, if you do, go by price. She could have hired Orly Taitz for a lot less money and gotten the same results.

5 ObserverArt  May 20, 2014 6:28:29pm

It is very obvious this decision was based on Sharia law.

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6 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:44:54pm

re: #4 Skip Intro

There’s a lesson here. Don’t choose your lawyer solely because he’s as big a racist bigot as you are. Or, if you do, go by price. She could have hired Orly Taitz for a lot less money and gotten the same results.

Yerushalmi probably did this pro bono. Bigots gotta hang together.

7 Charles Johnson  May 20, 2014 6:45:53pm

But even if it was pro bono, the miscellaneous costs associated with a lawsuit like this were significant.

8 Skip Intro  May 20, 2014 6:48:53pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

But even if it was pro bono, the miscellaneous costs associated with a lawsuit like this were significant.

That’s where hiring Taitz would have been an advantage. She works pro bono too (who would be crazy enough to pay her?), but she loses faster.

9 PeterWolf  May 20, 2014 7:05:10pm

I wonder if there will be some further effects from this judgement. For example, should Geller attempt to place those controversial ads in the name of the SIOA, they may be refused on the basis of the decision.

Anyway, Geller and her buddies just love to hate. Islam is just what they focus their hatred on. If Islam didn’t exist, they’d just find another target for their hatred.

10 EPR-radar  May 22, 2014 4:37:05pm

You’re correct that the only further step the bigots could take would be to the Supreme Court (which IMO would be most unlikely to actually take the case).

11 EPR-radar  May 22, 2014 4:43:57pm

re: #9 PeterWolf

I wonder if there will be some further effects from this judgement. For example, should Geller attempt to place those controversial ads in the name of the SIOA, they may be refused on the basis of the decision.

Anyway, Geller and her buddies just love to hate. Islam is just what they focus their hatred on. If Islam didn’t exist, they’d just find another target for their hatred.

That seems unlikely. A trademark is basically an attempt to make something proprietary, such that one can go after an infringer of the trademark. For example if I get a trademark to The Turnip Wurlitzer granted, then a competitor that tried to glom onto my success by selling a similar product also called the Turnip Wurlitzer would be infringing the trademark and I could sue to get this activity stopped.

Which raises the somewhat bizarre question —- since when is dissemination of hatred a proprietary exercise? In addition to being haters and bigots, these people are just dumb.

The odds that hateful ads would be refused because of the failure of the trademark application are very low —- there is no requirement that anything be trademarked.

12 CuriousLurker  May 22, 2014 5:16:05pm

re: #11 EPR-radar

That seems unlikely. A trademark is basically an attempt to make something proprietary, such that one can go after an infringer of the trademark. For example if I get a trademark to The Turnip Wurlitzer granted, then a competitor that tried to glom onto my success by selling a similar product also called the Turnip Wurlitzer would be infringing the trademark and I could sue to get this activity stopped.

Which raises the somewhat bizarre question —- since when is dissemination of hatred a proprietary exercise? In addition to being haters and bigots, these people are just dumb.

The odds that hateful ads would be refused because of the failure of the trademark application are very low —- there is no requirement that anything be trademarked.

Now that you mention it, I’m reminded of something I read by Eugene Volokh when I was looking into reactions to this decision (emphasis mine):

My tentative view is that the general exclusion of marks that disparage persons, institutions, beliefs, or national symbols should be seen as unconstitutional…. But I’m not sure that courts will ultimately see this my way; so far they haven’t been inclined to do so, precisely because the exclusion of a mark from federal registration leaves people entirely free to use the mark.

washingtonpost.com

Politically, he’s a bit too conservative/libertarian for my tastes, but some of the stuff legal stuff he says makes sense (to a layman such as myself), like the following article he wrote for the Oklahoma Law Review earlier this year regarding the unnecessary hysteria over “creeping Sharia” in the US:

Religious Law (Especially Islamic Law) in American Courts (PDF)


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