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1 Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2014 10:41:41am

$1.7 trillion not enough?

Well, we broke it, so I guess we can go broke trying to fix it.

2 nines09  Jun 12, 2014 1:57:39pm

We can’t afford to give Veterans the services they need. We can’t afford to even give them SNAP. We can’t afford, we can’t afford, we can’t afford. We can’t afford.

3 Dark_Falcon  Jun 12, 2014 5:43:42pm

re: #2 nines09

We can’t afford to give Veterans the services they need. We can’t afford to even give them SNAP. We can’t afford, we can’t afford, we can’t afford. We can’t afford.

The VA reform bill just cleared the Senate 93-3 after passing the House unanimously. It’s got to go through Conference, but that seems smooth sailing. So veterans’ care is getting extra funding.

4 Skip Intro  Jun 12, 2014 5:51:54pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

The VA reform bill just cleared the Senate 93-3 after passing the House unanimously. It’s got to go through Conference, but that seems smooth sailing. So veterans’ care is getting extra funding.

That will fix things for sure.

The Veterans Administration scandal is pretty dreadful, but it should not be a surprise. There have been VA scandals since there was a VA - indeed, before, when there was something called the Veterans Bureau that devolved into a morass of corruption. It was replaced in 1930 by the current VA.

Two years later, veterans marched on Washington to get war bonuses they were promised during World War I. The vets had to be driven away from the capital by federal troops, a sad case of soldiers turning against soldiers. Everyone was embarrassed and reforms were promised.

And so it went - 1947, a government investigation uncovered fraud, waste and long wait times for services. Pledges are made that heads would roll. Eight years later, another investigation uncovered many instances of inadequate care, along with the requisite waste and corruption.

In the 1970s, the VA denied for the longest time that Agent Orange had anything to do with health problems. Also in the ’70s: Another investigation found inadequate patient care in the Denver and New Orleans hospitals. In the 1980s, three scandals. All of them revolved around waste, corruption and inadequate patient care.

….

Our debt to the soldiers is still real. It’s the deal we made when we hired them to do our fighting for us. Can anything win out over bureaucratic indifference and incompetence? History suggests no. That’s shameful.

Heck, Revolutionary War soldiers were denied payments they had been promised

sfgate.com

5 nines09  Jun 13, 2014 10:26:58am

re: #4 Skip Intro

From what I saw in the late 60’s and 70’s it seems not much has changed. More injured servicemen were saved in Nam and the rates have only gone up since. So more debilitating injuries plague survivors, and the VA is still not doing the job. To play politics with the VA, as the GOP has tried, to foist off the blame on Obama is reprehensible. They voted down just about every bill that could have helped vets that came across their desks. There is enough duplicity and dereliction of duty to go around, but this little dirt throwing is beyond the pale. So they passed a bill, and as you stated, what else is new? There should never be a service man or woman who wants for any care needed, be it physical or mental. Period. The mealy mouthed platitudes offered up by politicians for sacrifice and service is a Greek Tragedy. Now we get to watch and hear all the right wing GOP Tea Bags get all jacked up over Iraq all over again. They want to send troops? Send THEM and their families. I wonder what Dubya is doing? Hanging photos? Reliving past glory? Doing blow? Oh, and FUCK Senator McCain.


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