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1 scottslemmons  Jul 10, 2014 5:55:44pm

That’s a seriously screwy cartoon.

2 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 10, 2014 6:11:36pm

Ausador,

This is an excellent argument for the separation of Church and State. “Teaching the controversy” is a Joke. There’s only a controversy because fundamentalists can’t accept reality.

3 Zamb  Jul 10, 2014 6:15:12pm

The cartoon also appears to show that creationists are insane and have no idea what they are doing. In the middle of a cannon fight they are all smiling crazily one is shooting in the complete wrong direction, another is aiming at his own ally, while that ally appears to believe that the balloons are the most important target.

4 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 10, 2014 6:30:18pm

re: #3 Zamb

Well its people like this who brought us the adorable “Crocoduck”
Youtube Video

5 PeterWolf  Jul 10, 2014 7:00:28pm

All ye sinners shall burn in hell.

See you there :)

6 Snarknado!  Jul 10, 2014 7:15:48pm

Illustrating the Good News: Evolutionists are winning.

7 Skip Intro  Jul 10, 2014 7:42:02pm
“Evolution is part of high school biology curriculum,” the PowerPoint reads. “You are entitled to challenge everything and encouraged to believe whatever you would like.

Kind of negates the entire reason for going to school, IMO.

Too bad reality doesn’t accommodate those who don’t believe in it

8 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 10, 2014 9:00:55pm

Hehmant Mehta picked up on this story, as did the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

patheos.com
ajc.com

District officials say the PowerPoint stack was not properly vetted before uploading it to the district’s SharePoint. The person responsible for maintaining SharePoint isn’t talking much, and the teacher seems to think it’s no big deal.

The PowerPoint stack is here docs.google.com

9 Mentis Fugit  Jul 11, 2014 1:43:37am

Literally demonising any opinion contrary to their own.

10 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 11, 2014 1:49:35am

Speaking as a science teacher, that PowerPoint presentation was among the worst I’ve seen in presenting a clear view of evolution. Aside from the spelling and punctuation errors, its organization and layout are pretty amateur. There’s also an indication that the creator of the stack is suggesting there is some debate about the validity of evolutionary theory. Here’s the first slide’s text.

No matter what your beliefs are, it is always better to have as much information as you can so that you can form your own, educated opinion!

Scientific theories are not decided on the basis of opinion!

11 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jul 11, 2014 1:52:08am

We fail to teach what science is and how it works, where it applies and where it does not. Lacking that basic knowledge, it is easy to confuse it with belief and theology.

12 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 11, 2014 1:58:09am

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We fail to teach what science is and how it works, where it applies and where it does not. Lacking that basic knowledge, it is easy to confuse it with belief and theology.

Amen! //

It troubles me no end that many high school science teachers really do not understand what science is or how it works. They learn the fundamentals of their chosen subject, but few really understand how scientists came to derive those fundamentals. Plus, standardized testing fosters the idea that science is just a collection of facts and figures to memorize, not a process by which we obtain those facts and figures.

High school science texts suck, too, by the way. They’re generally written and edited by huge committees, with the expected results.

As for this PowerPoint stack, the cartoon I think was added for comic relief, as was a photo of Octomom, but both are out of place in an otherwise dry presentation cobbled together from a variety of sources, none of which seem geared toward HS students.

13 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 11, 2014 1:58:55am

re: #10 wheat-dogghazi

Speaking as a science teacher, that PowerPoint presentation was among the worst I’ve seen in presenting a clear view of evolution. Aside from the spelling and punctuation errors, its organization and layout are pretty amateur. There’s also an indication that the creator of the stack is suggesting there is some debate about the validity of evolutionary theory. Here’s the first slide’s text.

Scientific theories are not decided on the basis of opinion!

And neither is their validity decided by adding wacky crank theories (of which creationism is one) to the mix to “choose” between them.

14 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 11, 2014 2:06:10am

re: #13 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Textbook publishers offer teachers and school district a wide variety of professionally done, attractive ancillary materials like PPT stacks, videos and the like. I don’t understand why a teacher would choose this amateurish presentation over something better prepared and better looking,

15 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 11, 2014 2:08:08am

re: #14 wheat-dogghazi

Because they don’t pay any attention to his pet crank ideas.

16 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 11, 2014 4:45:15am

an illustration worthy of 4th graders everywhere

wait… you mean that’s conceptually and artistcally drawn by grown man?

AHHHHH………………HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

17 BongCrodny  Jul 11, 2014 5:13:26am

So, there was no racism before Darwin?

I’ll bet dollars to donuts that when Republicans bitch about it being impossible to fire bad teachers, they’re not talking about “teachers” like Jones.

18 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jul 11, 2014 5:15:21am

re: #17 BongCrodny

Of course, the very idea of slavery used to be defended by people who happened to be Biblical literalists by pointing to the Noah/Ham story.

19 Kafitrar  Jul 11, 2014 10:17:46am

re: #3 Zamb

According to people at The Panda’s Thumb website, the cartoon is criticizing Christians who aren’t fighting evolution, are against creationism, or who are only attacking the “fruits” of evolution. Many fundamentalists believe evolution is the root of all evil.

20 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 11, 2014 10:46:30am

re: #19 Kafitrar

According to people at The Panda’s Thumb website, the cartoon is criticizing Christians who aren’t fighting evolution, are against creationism, or who are only attacking the “fruits” of evolution. Many fundamentalists believe evolution is the root of all evil.

No, actually they believe that Satan in the form of talking snake is root of all Evil. People only believe in evolution, as far as they’re concerned, because of the devil leading people astray from the “one true God.”

21 wheat-dogghazi  Jul 11, 2014 7:28:01pm

re: #20 CriticalDragon1177

No, actually they believe that Satan in the form of talking snake is root of all Evil. People only believe in evolution, as far as they’re concerned, because of the devil leading people astray from the “one true God.”

They really oppose the idea of “materialism” — that is, the rejection of anything immaterial (like God, etc.). Science has been based on materialism since Galileo’s days. Despite their respective faiths, people like Galileo, Newton and Einstein, never presupposed that an inexplicable, immaterial “force” was responsible for the physical world. Newton, in fact, was very troubled with the mechanics of gravitation — how gravity “gets around” — and chose not to discuss it in the Principia. Scientists of the day accused him of suggesting sorcery was responsible for the orbits of the planets. Interestingly, God was never offered as an explanation.

Intelligent Design-ists want to redefine Science to allow for immaterial causes — the “Intelligent Designer” — to sneak God in through the back door. Creationists are happy to reject material causes altogether and say God can not only come in through the front door, but he also owns the whole damn house, and only he knows the rules.


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