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1 1Peter G1  Aug 14, 2014 11:36:22am

Here’s a suggestion: ban citizens from owning military grade weapons with unlimited magazine size and as much armor piecing rounds as they can afford. Then they won’t need most of that equipment. I’m betting your going to say no.

2 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 14, 2014 11:45:34am

re: #1 1Peter G1

Here’s a suggestion: ban citizens from owning military grade weapons with unlimited magazine size and as much armor piecing rounds as they can afford. Then they won’t need most of that equipment. I’m betting your going to say no.

Well you would be wrong again. I support the laws on the books that ban military weapons. Banned since Bonnie and Clyde more or less.

Considering what they brought for an unarmed crowd, if anyone showed up with real weapons at the protest I suppose County PD would just call in an airstrike. Use some retired and DOD granted A-10’s.
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Seriously dude it was 9/11 not the NRA that triggered the militarization.

3 1Peter G1  Aug 14, 2014 12:39:30pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator
I am glad to find you reasonable.
Militarization is mostly just a made up word to describe something that doesn’t really have much meaning. The police wear helmets and body armor? No shit. Guess what? They have those things now. Does fairness require them to be easily killed. Check out the story about Doug-e-stan. You live in a country where mental illness does not bar you from owning semi-automatic weapons. Perhaps you would like to review the video of the Cliven ranch party where the BLM officers were having perfectly lethal weapons pointed at them while performing their duties. Any of those clowns get arrested yet?

While generally sympathetic to the point of view of the ACLU my suggestion that they take over door knocking duties on drug raids and such while letting the police stand back behind them was not very well received. For some reason people who deal in drugs on a cash basis seem to have a lot of guns. I guess fairness requires they have a chance to shoot first.

4 William Barnett-Lewis  Aug 14, 2014 12:39:45pm

re: #1 1Peter G1

Here’s a suggestion: read the National Firearms Act of 1934. Mil grade weapons have been highly regulated since then.

When the cops outgun everyone else, it’s a problem. When only the cops _have_ guns it’s a police state.

5 Jayleia  Aug 14, 2014 12:40:14pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

Well, 9/11, the War on Some People who use Drugs…I’d say its been going on a LOT longer than just 9/11. But 9/11 and Iraq left a LOT of surplus that was going to go somewhere.

6 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 14, 2014 1:45:55pm

re: #3 1Peter G1

Kicking in the door in a no knock raid is just one option police enjoy. I’m not worried about real crack houses, I do worry with good reason for the house down the street with a similar look and a similar address or when a typo sends them to the wrong house. It happens too much.

How about they make the arrest away from the house? Get them pulled over with some extra backup. Catch them on the way to Jack In The Box for that munchie meal. Whatever. Not sure how long you lurked around here but I catch a little heat around here for standing up for police in a bad spot.

Of course I agree it’s a shameful thing no one was arrested or charged for scoping law officers at Bundy. That was a fail. Incomprehensible to me. You would not see me fault the police for having all that gear in the face of such well armed people. But seriously, what was the big threat, where were all the assault rifles at Ferguson? Not in the hands of protesters.

Can you show me an official policy from any PD that is good with arresting media, shooting their equipment with bean bags and then the temporary set with tear gas? Or even drawing weapons in the absence of a suitable threat?

7 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 15, 2014 4:00:33am

re: #1 1Peter G1

Here’s a suggestion: ban citizens from owning military grade weapons with unlimited magazine size and as much armor piecing rounds as they can afford. Then they won’t need most of that equipment. I’m betting your going to say no.

The problem of militarization of the police and the problem of far too many guns in far too many hands are not actually strongly related.


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