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1 nines09  Aug 16, 2014 9:35:13am

I think what Open Carry Texas was attempting to do was/is pure, unadulterated intimidation. “Several members” sounds about right. / “Certain individuals in the area” makes it clearer. They didn’t want to just march in 5th Ward but they wanted to march with 5th Ward. Right. Sure. Uh huh. Youbetcha. Open carry assholes won’t be happy until a gunfight breaks out and then it will all be “certain other individuals” fault. Someone should ask them why they didn’t show up in Ferguson Mo. Sure looked like individual rights were being trampled there. Just where were those 2nd Amendment Patriotic All American Upright Citizens at?

2 calochortus  Aug 16, 2014 10:18:31am

Perhaps if all the minority members of OCT had approached the citizens of the 5th Ward…

In any event, it’s thoughtful of them to give locals time to change their minds.
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3 Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2014 10:39:25am

I’m not giving them any credit for canceling. These marches are absolutely insane, period. These people are out of their minds, and they shouldn’t have planned it in the first place.

4 Dark_Falcon  Aug 16, 2014 10:43:48am

re: #2 calochortus

Perhaps if all the minority members of OCT had approached the citizens of the 5th Ward…

In any event, it’s thoughtful of them to give locals time to change their minds.
/

As I said above, i seriously doubt that march will go forwards. I think there will be another meeting, this time more private, which will effectively end with the 5th Ward community leaders effectively saying “We’re not cool with a large number of armed white people coming to our neighborhood and we never will be. Historically in this state such a thing has been the prelude to massive racist assaults on African American residents. We know you don’t intend to do that, but the memory is still raw for us and you need to respect that.”

There are of course reason to be concerned about some of OCT members but that’s not the thing to say directly to OCT. But it shouldn’t even get that far: OCT’s leadership should huddle up and then announce that they will not be going ahead with the march, out of respect for the wishes of the effected community.

5 CuriousLurker  Aug 16, 2014 10:54:53am

I agree with your last paragraph, D_F, but it was a stupid idea to begin with, one that someone in the organization should have recognized as being inflammatory and guaranteed to cause trouble. As Charles said, it never should have gotten to the planning stage.

6 Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2014 11:01:19am

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Historically in this state such a thing has been the prelude to massive racist assaults on African American residents. We know you don’t intend to do that, but the memory is still raw for us and you need to respect that.

But they DO intend to do that, very obviously. There’s no other point to something like this.

7 Dark_Falcon  Aug 16, 2014 11:11:31am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

But they DO intend to do that, very obviously. There’s no other point to something like this.

I think it was intended as a ‘show of strength’ without an intent to commit mass violence. But it would still be very unwise to do seen that way.

The supreme irony is that a show of force and resolve proved effective, but it was a show of force and resolve by the black residents of the 5th Ward. They made it very clear to OCT that they would meet arms with arms and would neither welcome OCT nor be intimidated by them, and OTC folded.

8 Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2014 11:17:06am

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

It was clearly intended as a threat of mass violence against the black community.

These insane open carry marches need to be condemned. They need to stop. This is seriously bad right wing craziness.

9 Dark_Falcon  Aug 16, 2014 11:20:35am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

It was clearly intended as a threat of mass violence against the black community.

These insane open carry marches need to be condemned. They need to stop. This is seriously bad right wing craziness.

No disagreement from me on that second part. Open carry marches are stupid, thoughtless, and only succeed in making all gun owners look needlessly belligerent.

10 calochortus  Aug 16, 2014 1:43:31pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

As I said above, i seriously doubt that march will go forwards. I think there will be another meeting, this time more private, which will effectively end with the 5th Ward community leaders effectively saying “We’re not cool with a large number of armed white people coming to our neighborhood and we never will be. Historically in this state such a thing has been the prelude to massive racist assaults on African American residents. We know you don’t intend to do that, but the memory is still raw for us and you need to respect that.”

There are of course reason to be concerned about some of OCT members but that’s not the thing to say directly to OCT. But it shouldn’t even get that far: OCT’s leadership should huddle up and then announce that they will not be going ahead with the march, out of respect for the wishes of the effected community.

It should never have gotten to the point of planning the march in the first place. Either the planners are dumber than the proverbial box of rocks in which case they shouldn’t have guns, or they had an unpleasant message for the minority community. Or they could just be publicity whores. None of these makes the march a good plan.

11 Shvaughn  Aug 16, 2014 3:30:32pm
Letting Quanell X, a member of the New Black Panther Party, play a role in speaking to the media wasn’t a great idea, but it wasn’t an EPIC FAIL, since Quanell X made his case without saying anything racist (though several of the comments on the two articles say racist things about him).

It’s almost as if racist white people are a bigger threat to society than the New Black Panther Party.

Do things like this ever make you stop and think for a bit?

12 Lidane  Aug 16, 2014 4:10:08pm

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

I think it was intended as a ‘show of strength’ without an intent to commit mass violence.

They may not have planned violence but they sure as shit planned to intimidate the Fifth Ward.

The Fifth Ward dates back to the immediate post-Civil War years. It’s always been predominantly black, and was initially populated by freemen and working class blacks. It’s got a long, long history. These Open Carry assholes didn’t just pick it at random. They knew damn well what they were doing.

It’s no accident that a bunch of white men wanted to carry long guns into a historical black district and the Fifth Ward residents knew it. Good for them for resisting this bullshit. Next time, the OCT assholes should put their Klan robes. At least they’d be honest for once.

13 WhatEVs  Aug 17, 2014 4:30:01pm

Reminds me of the planned march in Skokie, IL. A march solely to inflame.

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