Doctor Who Spoiler Thread
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1 | sagehen Aug 23, 2014 5:24:43pm |
Only 7 minutes in, and already total fan service.
Love that Vastra and Jenny and Strex are in this story. Love that Moffet bought the new credit sequence from a fan vid that he liked and copied.
Love that the dinosaur is suitably cheesy.
2 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 5:26:35pm |
Only one issue with the episode thus far: a single stupid sound effect.
4 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 5:27:36pm |
re: #1 sagehen
This going to get dark at the end.
6 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 5:28:50pm |
8 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 5:30:17pm |
We’ve seen regeneration sickness before, but this seems particularly strong. Guess the new set of regenerations hit him hard.
9 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 5:30:40pm |
Oh, and Fanservice will go in a different direction after the commercials end.
10 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 5:31:51pm |
I love what happens to the conspiracy theorist.
13 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 5:36:21pm |
Clara is going to make a speech. An angry one.
15 | sagehen Aug 23, 2014 5:37:58pm |
I like the new musical theme for Doctor Twelve (I saw an interview with the composer earlier in the week — he doesn’t call any of them “the nth doctor”, they’re “doctor number”).
17 | De Kolta Chair Aug 23, 2014 5:38:38pm |
The Doctor jumping off the roof — a Peter Pan reference?
20 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 5:42:52pm |
So they put him to bed…but let him keep his screwdriver. Right.
24 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 5:49:57pm |
He’s more socially stupid than I am.
That is an achievement.
25 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 5:52:49pm |
And now one of the mysteries of the season. Why does he have the face from the past.
26 | sagehen Aug 23, 2014 5:54:41pm |
Jenny’s become more confident and forceful since last we saw her.
28 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 5:57:28pm |
re: #27 De Kolta Chair
Apparently Vastra works best with scantily clad women.
29 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 5:58:18pm |
re: #25 The War TARDIS
And now one of the mysteries of the season. Why does he have the face from the past.
Been a popular fan theory for awhile that the Doctor’s regenerations are not as random as he’s suggested. We know that Romana was able to change what she’d look like, so perhaps he’s doing it, only on a subconscious level?
30 | sagehen Aug 23, 2014 5:59:54pm |
Not even half an ep, and already I like this doctor better than Nine or Ten. There’s a chance within the hour he’ll overtake Eleven in my affections. (I still don’t love Clara — I can’t imagine she’ll ever rank higher than Martha or Amy on my favorites list).
31 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 6:00:54pm |
re: #30 sagehen
Not even half an ep, and already I like this doctor better than Nine or Ten. There’s a chance within the hour he’ll overtake Eleven in my affections. (I still don’t love Clara — I can’t imagine she’ll ever rank higher than Martha or Amy on my favorites list).
My favorite remains Donna, if only because there was never any romantic tension there. Amy’s second, but that’s because she was also able to actually challenge the Doctor, rather than just being along for the ride.
32 | sagehen Aug 23, 2014 6:02:23pm |
re: #29 Targetpractice
Been a popular fan theory for awhile that the Doctor’s regenerations are not as random as he’s suggested. We know that Romana was able to change what she’d look like, so perhaps he’s doing it, only on a subconscious level?
If he could choose his own looks he’d have been a ginger at least once.
33 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:04:54pm |
35 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 6:08:29pm |
“You’ve got to admire their efficiency.”
“Is it okay if I don’t?”
36 | Jayleia Aug 23, 2014 6:09:45pm |
re: #34 The War TARDIS
I don’t think I’ll forget THESE guys anytime soon…even if I do regenerate.
37 | De Kolta Chair Aug 23, 2014 6:09:47pm |
38 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 6:11:35pm |
I think I like this Doctor and Clara already, but I think that’s most because it’s no longer watching a young couple and more like watching a teacher and student again.
39 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:11:50pm |
re: #36 Jayleia
No, they have been in Doctor Who before
40 | De Kolta Chair Aug 23, 2014 6:16:01pm |
The first dormant body — a reference to “The Talons of Weng-Chiang”? This episode has a definite Tom Baker vibe.
44 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:21:25pm |
Anyone yet know what monsters these are, and what NuWho episode they are from?
46 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 6:23:47pm |
re: #44 The War TARDIS
Anyone yet know what monsters these are, and what NuWho episode they are from?
“The Girl in the Fireplace.”
47 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:25:18pm |
re: #46 Targetpractice
Very good.
These are the Clockwork droids.
And now, for another awesome Clara moment.
48 | De Kolta Chair Aug 23, 2014 6:26:53pm |
re: #45 The War TARDIS
I know already. :)
I have a feeling nobody’s going to a costume ball in this episode. ;-)
54 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 6:32:58pm |
I get the feeling that Strax’s clone batch had a few defects.
55 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:32:59pm |
Spoiler:there will be a twist right at the end.
56 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:34:24pm |
re: #54 Targetpractice
Watch ‘The Snowman’ he came back from the dead. Brain may not have made the return trip completely.
58 | De Kolta Chair Aug 23, 2014 6:41:32pm |
Bit o’trivia: the actor playing the Two-Faced Man will be in the upcoming film, High-Rise, based on J.G. Ballard’s 1975 novel.
60 | De Kolta Chair Aug 23, 2014 6:44:52pm |
Why didn’t they just hold their breathes for as long as they could and then inhale and hold their breathes again?
61 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:45:53pm |
The Doctor either killed it, or pushed it to Suicide.
62 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 6:47:04pm |
re: #61 The War TARDIS
The Doctor either killed it, or pushed it to Suicide.
I may be wrong, but I don’t believe this if the first time that the Doctor has talked someone to death.
63 | RadicalModerate Aug 23, 2014 6:47:49pm |
Even though The Doctor says that it is against his nature to kill, to say he has never done so would be an outright lie.
“No second chances”
65 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:49:42pm |
re: #63 RadicalModerate
I know that. The episode Dalek, for example.
This was close to human though.
66 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 6:50:19pm |
re: #64 De Kolta Chair
Sort of, but then it goes sideways.
72 | RadicalModerate Aug 23, 2014 7:01:10pm |
re: #70 De Kolta Chair
Old? Did someone say old?
Capaldi is actually a year older than Hartnell was when he started playing The Doctor.
73 | Jayleia Aug 23, 2014 7:02:06pm |
re: #71 De Kolta Chair
I don’t know, but she’s giving off Kovarian levels of creepiness.
74 | sagehen Aug 23, 2014 7:02:12pm |
re: #71 De Kolta Chair
WHO’s that creepy lady?
She looks familiar, doesn’t she? I want to say Lara Pulver (Irene Adler), but could that possibly be?
75 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 7:03:06pm |
“Missy”? Boyfriend? I have a thought…and it’s a very scary one.
76 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 7:03:21pm |
78 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 7:06:19pm |
re: #77 The War TARDIS
What is it?
Missy as in Mistress. Mistress, as in the feminine version of…Master.
Yeah, I don’t see that being the big twist this season. Too cheesy.
79 | De Kolta Chair Aug 23, 2014 7:09:57pm |
re: #72 RadicalModerate
Capaldi is actually a year older than Hartnell was when he started playing The Doctor.
I didn’t realize Capaldi was that “old” or that Hartnell was that young.
80 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 7:12:39pm |
re: #79 De Kolta Chair
Things have changed alot in 50 years.
re: #78 Targetpractice
Unlikely.
I have been watching the stuff from filming. The Nethersphere does appear in the Finale.
In addition the Headstones of Rory and Amy, Thomas Thomas, and Clara Oswin Oswald (Victorian One) appear. In the case of the last one, both a clean version, and a weathered one.
81 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 7:16:24pm |
re: #80 The War TARDIS
Things have changed alot in 50 years.
Unlikely.
I have been watching the stuff from filming. The Nethersphere does appear in the Finale.
In addition the Headstones of Rory and Amy, Thomas Thomas, and Clara Oswin Oswald (Victorian One) appear. In the case of the last one, both a clean version, and a weathered one.
Yes, like I said, I found it unlikely. But I had heard talk that they’d be bringing back the Master this season.
83 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 7:26:55pm |
Sad thing is that I, in search of what Capaldi had been saying in the first teaser trailer, ended up spoiling the phone call at the end. Still, was nice this time that the previous Doctor got to assure Clara (and the audience) that the new Doctor may be different, but inside it’s still him.
85 | hartly Aug 23, 2014 7:47:10pm |
I’m cautiously optimistic. I came around somewhat to Smith after watching some of his reruns as he could be very good when written well (which was unfortunately rare), but I think Capaldi can be much better than either him or Tennant. Loved Capaldi giving his enemy the choice between suicide and execution instead of reformation and execution. I’m hoping he’ll stay cold, but given how people have reacted in the past to the unfriendly Doctors (Hartnell and C Baker regularly place low in opinion polls, and Eccleston is easily the least popular of the new guys), I doubt this can last. Still, after two straight puppies in the Tardis it’s nice to see a grown-up again.
87 | hartly Aug 23, 2014 7:51:22pm |
re: #40 De Kolta Chair I was wondering that. The show seems to be getting back the macabre feel of the Hinchcliffe/Holmes days, though not with quite the same ease and assuredness. The skin balloon was just trying way too hard.
88 | De Kolta Chair Aug 23, 2014 7:57:10pm |
re: #87 hartly
I was wondering that. The show seems to be getting back the macabre feel of the Hinchcliffe/Holmes days, though not with quite the same ease and assuredness. The skin balloon was just trying way too hard.
It didn’t come anywhere near the creepiness of The Empty Child, though I don’t think they were attempting to anyway.
Still my favorite episode of the New Who’s.
89 | Targetpractice Aug 23, 2014 7:57:52pm |
re: #85 hartly
I’m cautiously optimistic. I came around somewhat to Smith after watching some of his reruns as he could be very good when written well (which was unfortunately rare), but I think Capaldi can be much better than either him or Tennant. Loved Capaldi giving his enemy the choice between suicide and execution instead of reformation and execution. I’m hoping he’ll stay cold, but given how people have reacted in the past to the unfriendly Doctors (Hartnell and C Baker regularly place low in opinion polls, and Eccleston is easily the least popular of the new guys), I doubt this can last. Still, after two straight puppies in the Tardis it’s nice to see a grown-up again.
To be fair to Baker, he was largely the whipping boy of executives who by that point had decided they wanted the series to end and so wrote his character as schizophrenic. He’s actually gained a lot of praise in the audio adventures of the Sixth Doctor.
And I think Eccleston’s run to be very good, if mostly because he was perfect for the stories his Doctor was being handed. It was actually liking his version of the Doctor that got me into NuWho, because he could do dark and dramatic stories and he didn’t seem like a sad clown when doing them. Because that’s really how Tennant and Smith played their Doctors so much of the time, as grown children who were skirting around the universe looking for fun to have. When you gave them a dark and dramatic story, it always seemed like they were taken out of their comfort zone.
90 | hartly Aug 23, 2014 8:17:49pm |
re: #89 Targetpractice
Let me stress that I don’t personally dislike Baker’s or Eccleston’s (or Hartnell’s, for that matter) takes on the characters. I’m just stating what seems to be the general opinion of them and how I think this might affect how Capaldi ultimately winds up playing the part. I agree about Tennant and to a lesser degree Smith, though in the latter case I think it was more the writing than the actor. When his Doctor was calm and not overly-emotional Smith could actually give a decent dramatic performance.
91 | hartly Aug 23, 2014 8:23:13pm |
re: #79 De Kolta Chair
Yes, it was pretty shocking for me when I found out Hartnell was only in his 50’s when he was playing the Doctor. The poor guy was very ill for a large portion of his life, and it showed in his features, not to mention his inability to remember lines.
92 | The War TARDIS Aug 23, 2014 8:58:59pm |
re: #88 De Kolta Chair
Oh don’t worry.
From what I have heard, Moffat will fix that with the 4th Episode.
We will also lern about the Doctor and his childhood then. If rumors are correct, we may have a name by inference.
93 | steve_davis Aug 24, 2014 3:36:52am |
Loved it. It’s nice to have a “normal” middle-aged doctor again for a change, rather than the hyperactive kids who were doing it for awhile.
94 | steve_davis Aug 24, 2014 3:46:07am |
re: #85 hartly
I’m cautiously optimistic. I came around somewhat to Smith after watching some of his reruns as he could be very good when written well (which was unfortunately rare), but I think Capaldi can be much better than either him or Tennant. Loved Capaldi giving his enemy the choice between suicide and execution instead of reformation and execution. I’m hoping he’ll stay cold, but given how people have reacted in the past to the unfriendly Doctors (Hartnell and C Baker regularly place low in opinion polls, and Eccleston is easily the least popular of the new guys), I doubt this can last. Still, after two straight puppies in the Tardis it’s nice to see a grown-up again.
The thing I find to be imperative when watching BOTH Tennant and Smith is to watch without commercials. For whatever reason, the way the scripts were written is such that commercials break the whole vibe. Now, I watched the Capaldi episodes in real time, and the commercials didn’t really hurt it. Maybe that means better script.
95 | hartly Aug 24, 2014 6:47:51am |
re: #94 steve_davis
Thanks for the advice. I’ll have to try that one day. But it will probably some time before I have the stomach to watch any Tennant again.
96 | 6monkeys Aug 24, 2014 11:08:11am |
Do you guys think it was suicide or did the Doctor push him? My theory is that if he was pushed he would have been face-down on the steeple. I think since he was face-up he jumped; either feet first or possibly turned around and leaned back. Just my thought as a fan, but not an overly knowledgeable one :-)
97 | William Barnett-Lewis Aug 24, 2014 12:35:49pm |
So far so good. Almost as fun as the fourth & the ninth. Loved the bit about a long scarf and then changing his mind.
98 | sizzzzlerz Aug 27, 2014 7:06:35am |
Too long resulting in a lot more filler that dragged the interest factor down. I know it was the opening episode for the season but still. I was seriously considering turning it off about 45 minutes in. Plus Drax, the lizard gal, and Jenny have exceeded their best-when-used-by date. Its time to move on.