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1 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 9, 2014 7:12:33pm

U.S. Is number 2, I’m guessing China is number 1?

2 socrets  Sep 9, 2014 7:48:21pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

For the time being. If China is actually serious about cutting their emissions, then we might get to be number 1!

3 Skip Intro  Sep 9, 2014 7:54:29pm

More cheery news that no one cares about.

Climate Change Will Disrupt Half of North America’s Bird Species, Study Says

4 lostlakehiker  Sep 9, 2014 8:25:06pm

Even when an auto crash has become inevitable, it still makes sense to stand on the brakes. Sooner or later, China will come to her senses. Ditto for the US. We’re both so big that the tradeoff between our own share of the consequences of our emissions, and the entirety of our benefit from using the fossil fuels, will work out negative as the cost of wind and solar drops.

Sanity might kick in sooner if Republicans would come to their senses on the topic. That failing, as it seems destined to fail, sanity might kick in sooner if Democrats would play louder on the topic of how we can adjust without any real disruption, instead of sticking to their one scientifically correct, but politically insufficient it seems, point that the price of business as usual is intolerable.

That argument, by implication, concedes that the price of changing over to wind and solar and nuclear is just barely short of intolerable. Which it is not.

5 freetoken  Sep 10, 2014 3:33:44am

I know many headlines are running with this “faster” bit, but that is misleading. If you go view the actual graphs of measure CO2 concentration:

You’ll see that the increase in the 12 month average hasn’t changed much, that is, hasn’t accelerated.

While global fossil fuel production hasn’t probably peaked, it is on a plateau that will likely last for many years.

China just signed a major, multi-billion dollar development deal with Russia to develop a large coal deposit in eastern Siberia.

Australia has rolled back their carbon reduction policies to the point that they are in essence encouraging new development of their own coal deposits, mostly for China.

And so forth.

It’s likely that atmospheric CO2 concentration will increase per year by 2 or 3 ppm for very many years, until finally fossil fuel production peaks and declines. Problem is, over 300 million years quite a bit of carbon was sequestered in the ground in combustible form.

I expect anything that can burn will in the end be burned.

Climate change is just too slow to give the feedback necessary into the human decision making process. This is a hard truth to swallow and I wonder what people 200 years from now will really think. My suspicion is that many people will not really spend time trying to figure out what happened, because they will be too busy trying to survive.

6 Ace-o-aces  Sep 10, 2014 9:07:13am


7 S'latch  Sep 10, 2014 12:46:53pm

IMO, the only way to fix the problem is a top-down solution that will have to be imposed on everyone on the planet, especially the multinational corporations. It will require total cooperation between almost every government on the planet, or a world-wide governing body over environmental issues, which means almost every issue, really.

Okay, whose with me? Let’s go!

8 S'latch  Sep 10, 2014 12:50:49pm

And, sadly, I am being serious.

9 BongCrodny  Sep 10, 2014 3:47:47pm

There are times when I wish I could live to be 200 or 300; other times I find myself glad that I’ve only got +/- 20 more years on this rock.

This is one of the “other times.”

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