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1 lostlakehiker  Sep 17, 2014 8:54:23pm

This sort of thing has all but become the norm in the downscale parts of England. It had already got that way by 1999. Hospitals were by then seeing patients with domestic violence injuries at rates that were drastically higher than what had hitherto been the norm.

The explanation is fairly simple. The idea has been promulgated, and accepted, that in matters of sex, restraint and caution are passe. Everybody can have anybody. But this wide open freedom carries with it a terrible price: nobody can expect that as a matter of course, their partner of the moment will be faithful just because. Jealousy runs riot. Men impose a brutal regime of fear and random violence with the purpose of keeping their women terrorized into not looking at any other man and not defecting from the living arrangements that have fallen into place.

And then they go out and look for side sport among other women not sufficiently terrorized.

Now please be clear…I do not excuse these men on the grounds that their culture made them do it. Their conduct is revolting and it should be punished severely. But—-that’s not how it’s gone. And the slack and indifferent attitude of the authorities has been a contributing factor. Men would not be so bold in this if the law was applied with the appropriate clear eyed severity that it should be.

And the law, convinced also that the old norms are passe, looks the other way on a wider scale. The situation is epidemic. And child abuse, too, thrives. Sexual or not. Either way, the law looks aside. (The case of Victoria Climbie is a good example. The wikipedia article says the law was changed after that case, but changing laws means little if the new laws are as resolutely ignored as the old ones were.)

Rotherham, England is just the latest scandal in a long line of them. wikipedia article on Rotherham scandal

2 FemNaziBitch  Sep 18, 2014 12:24:36pm

re: #1 lostlakehiker

This sort of thing has all but become the norm in the downscale parts of England. It had already got that way by 1999. Hospitals were by then seeing patients with domestic violence injuries at rates that were drastically higher than what had hitherto been the norm.

The explanation is fairly simple. The idea has been promulgated, and accepted, that in matters of sex, restraint and caution are passe. Everybody can have anybody. But this wide open freedom carries with it a terrible price: nobody can expect that as a matter of course, their partner of the moment will be faithful just because. Jealousy runs riot. Men impose a brutal regime of fear and random violence with the purpose of keeping their women terrorized into not looking at any other man and not defecting from the living arrangements that have fallen into place.

And then they go out and look for side sport among other women not sufficiently terrorized.

Now please be clear…I do not excuse these men on the grounds that their culture made them do it. Their conduct is revolting and it should be punished severely. But—-that’s not how it’s gone. And the slack and indifferent attitude of the authorities has been a contributing factor. Men would not be so bold in this if the law was applied with the appropriate clear eyed severity that it should be.

And the law, convinced also that the old norms are passe, looks the other way on a wider scale. The situation is epidemic. And child abuse, too, thrives. Sexual or not. Either way, the law looks aside. (The case of Victoria Climbie is a good example. The wikipedia article says the law was changed after that case, but changing laws means little if the new laws are as resolutely ignored as the old ones were.)

Rotherham, England is just the latest scandal in a long line of them. wikipedia article on Rotherham scandal

What are you doing to change it?

3 lostlakehiker  Sep 18, 2014 1:23:02pm

Complaining and exposing. I don’t have a vote in Britain. I read enough to have a sense of what goes on there, but things are, happily, better in the US. Not good, not by a long shot, but better.

It is not the case in the US that battered wives have no recourse with the law. The protection they are afforded is patchy and fragile, but it does exist. It is not the case in the US that as a general rule, truant boards look the other way when girls are withdrawn from school at 11 and never show again.

It is not the case that sports stars get away with domestic violence, bet it against girlfriends, wives, or children. At a minimum, they are in for a rough ride when it comes to publicity. If they’re OJ, they may even be charged, though getting a conviction was a bridge too far.

Still not good.


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