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1 Sionainn  Oct 10, 2014 6:26:20pm

Good for the judge. I think he made the right decision.

2 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 7:52:00am

This doesn’t just happen in cases of murder.

To be clear, the case presented in this follow-up story is different in its legal proceedings: The stepfather who raped his stepson plead guilty, whereas the boy’s mother chose to to go to trial, where the jury and judge were not bound by the prosecutor’s recommendation for the same sentence as her son’s rapist. But it still was a very bad situation.

3 ProtectChildren  Oct 11, 2014 8:21:43am

The judge made a terrible decision. This woman should be in jail for the rest of her life. The violent murder of her daughter was not the first time he abused people in the house. If she had left at the first sign of him being crazy or violent, a child would still be alive. Whatever reasons she had for staying with him would have been fine with me if it were just her. She has an obligation as a MOTHER to put her child’s safety and well being ahead of anything else, including her own love life. I don’t care how “scared” she was to leave him. The worst has happened.

I have a daughter and there is absolutely no way I would ever let anyone harm her, much less kill her. They would have to kill me first.

Interesting side note: She got through the rendition of her daughter’s murder with no emotion in her voice.

4 ProtectChildren  Oct 11, 2014 8:23:14am

Children of single parents who date and/or remarry have significantly higher rates of molestation, abuse, and death. Put your child first and your love life second.

5 missliberties  Oct 11, 2014 8:32:06am

re: #4 ProtectChildren

Children of single parents who date and/or remarry have significantly higher rates of molestation, abuse, and death. Put your child first and your love life second.

Tell that to the Fathers, who put their ‘love life’ first and their children second. Or perhaps it’s a case of economics. Fathers without jobs can’t support their kids.

Having access to birth control is a key factor in being able to control the circumstances in which your child is born. The conservative right keeps slut shaming teh childrens who want to have access to birth control, before they have sex, so they don’t become parents while they are still *dating* as you say.

6 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 9:35:41am

The reek of sanctimonious hypocrisy in the morning is most unpleasant.

7 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 11, 2014 10:04:19am

re: #3 ProtectChildren

Interesting side note: She got through the rendition of her daughter’s murder with no emotion in her voice.

Now that’s the way to turn a victim, the woman into the perpetrator. My own foster daughter suffered through a case like this when her husband raped their two year old girl. His defense attorney tried to do what exactly what you are doing.

8 Dr. Matt  Oct 11, 2014 10:10:13am

re: #4 ProtectChildren

Once more for good measure:

9 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 10:12:48am

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

Now that’s the way to turn a victim, the woman into the perpetrator.

^^^THIS^^

10 Ryan King  Oct 11, 2014 10:31:22am

11 ausador  Oct 11, 2014 10:32:32am

re: #3 ProtectChildren

Interesting side note: She got through the rendition of her daughter’s murder with no emotion in her voice.

You mean the voice actress (probably a Buzzfeed staffer) that read the court transcript for Buzzfeed’s video? Did you seriously believe that this is an actual recording of the woman testifying?

You think this bland reading is what moved the judge and the prosecutor to have such sympathy for her? Good grief… :(

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 10:44:56am

Much silence from the hatchling since dumping those turds on the thread.

13 ProtectChildren  Oct 11, 2014 1:21:50pm

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

Don’t get me wrong, the boyfriend should be executed. But the mother not only sat there and let it happen, she put her daughter and another child in that situation to begin with. That’s why it is considered a CRIME. Because she’s responsible to stop it. But, very typical to resort to name-calling rather than actually debating any of the facts.

14 ProtectChildren  Oct 11, 2014 1:28:13pm

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

My own foster daughter suffered through a case like this when her husband raped their two year old girl. His defense attorney tried to do what exactly what you are doing.

^^This is only the same if the mother of your foster daughter watched him rape her daughter on more than one occasion and did nothing to stop it. So, it’s probably completely different.

15 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 1:36:23pm

oh, look who finally woke up…

16 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 1:38:43pm

re: #14 ProtectChildren

My own foster daughter suffered through a case like this when her husband raped their two year old girl. His defense attorney tried to do what exactly what you are doing.

^^This is only the same if the mother of your foster daughter watched him rape her daughter on more than one occasion and did nothing to stop it. So, it’s probably completely different.

You weren’t there, so fuck off.

17 Ryan King  Oct 11, 2014 1:45:19pm
18 ProtectChildren  Oct 11, 2014 2:02:13pm

Trolling the internet for the comments section replies is not typically how I spend my time. Impressive tactic several people have employed, though- Trying to silence an opposing view with repetitive vulgarity. It’s probably effective sometimes, too.
I will never stop speaking out to protect children. Think about that for a minute…. You’re actually telling someone whose only motivation is to protect innocent children to screw themselves. What kind of person does that make you? You (and other responders) are clearly not educated or analytical enough to have an actual response (NOT that I was looking for one), so I’m pretty much done here. But this was mildly entertaining for a few minutes.

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 2:04:49pm

re: #18 ProtectChildren

But you have no problem coming here to make broad brush blanket statements and lecturing people about situations you know nothing about.

good freakin grief.

20 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 2:07:32pm

re: #18 ProtectChildren

Oh, and thank you so much for slandering women like my mother (in your second comment in this thread) who dared to date after my father left her with six children to raise on her own.

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

21 jaunte  Oct 11, 2014 2:08:28pm

re: #18 ProtectChildren

I will never stop speaking out to protect children.

Don’t work too hard.

22 allegro  Oct 11, 2014 2:10:38pm

re: #18 ProtectChildren

Trolling the internet for the comments section replies is not typically how I spend my time. Impressive tactic several people have employed, though- Trying to silence an opposing view with repetitive vulgarity. It’s probably effective sometimes, too.
I will never stop speaking out to protect children. Think about that for a minute…. You’re actually telling someone whose only motivation is to protect innocent children to screw themselves. What kind of person does that make you? You (and other responders) are clearly not educated or analytical enough to have an actual response, so I’m pretty much done here. But this was mildly entertaining for a few minutes.

Cupcake, if your only motivation was to “protect innocent children” you would be screaming about the system that fails/refuses to prosecute abusers who have been reported repeatedly and fails to hear and protect those who are abused, beaten, and murdered no matter how often they plead for help. You would be supporting shelters that help women and their children escape and programs that help them get back on their feet.

Instead here you are, all self-righteous and superior, blaming a beaten down woman for another’s violent crime and insisting she pay with her life. Nope, not working. You are a part of the problem.

23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 2:15:37pm

re: #22 allegro

I regret that I only have one upding to give for that.

24 Ryan King  Oct 11, 2014 2:24:26pm

re: #18 ProtectChildren

I will never stop speaking out to protect children my repugnant ignorance, victim blaming, and self righteousness.

There, fixed it.

25 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 2:33:05pm

re: #18 ProtectChildren

Trolling the internet for the comments section replies is not typically how I spend my time. Impressive tactic several people have employed, though- Trying to silence an opposing view with repetitive vulgarity. It’s probably effective sometimes, too.

No one has silenced your opposing view. We pushed back.

I will never stop speaking out to protect children. Think about that for a minute…. You’re actually telling someone whose only motivation is to protect innocent children to screw themselves. What kind of person does that make you?

That is a ridiculous statement right there.

You (and other responders) are clearly not educated or analytical enough to have an actual response, so I’m pretty much done here. But this was mildly entertaining for a few minutes.

How sad that you didn’t take the time to familiarize yourself with the community here, many of whom have direct experience with this issue.
And only a few minutes of mild entertainment? You’ve been here for fecking HOURS. And you find this topic entertaining?
Yet you are STILL here.

The long slow flounce…

26 Sionainn  Oct 11, 2014 3:22:37pm

re: #18 ProtectChildren

Trolling the internet for the comments section replies is not typically how I spend my time. Impressive tactic several people have employed, though- Trying to silence an opposing view with repetitive vulgarity. It’s probably effective sometimes, too.
I will never stop speaking out to protect children. Think about that for a minute…. You’re actually telling someone whose only motivation is to protect innocent children to screw themselves. What kind of person does that make you? You (and other responders) are clearly not educated or analytical enough to have an actual response (NOT that I was looking for one), so I’m pretty much done here. But this was mildly entertaining for a few minutes.

Yeah, because none of us actually want to protect children except for you. *eye roll*

27 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:30:56pm

ha… the flounce was so short-lived…hatchling is back.

28 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 4:50:05pm

And just like that…poof! Hatchling gone again.

I suspect it’s waiting for this to be a dead thread before recommencing with the lectures.

29 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Oct 11, 2014 5:26:43pm

re: #18 ProtectChildren

I totally get why you are mad. And I do see you are passionate about protecting children. I think we all are though.

However, the voices you heard on this video, were not the actual voices of the people, they were voice over people reading the transcripts from the case. That is why she sounded a little disengaged.

Also, this was not the trial for the mother. This judge had presided over the Mothers trial earlier, but the Mother did not choose to argue for her innocence. She put in a guilty charge and was sentenced and that was all. She was so beaten down by the terror and abuse from this insane man and the horror of her daughters death she didn’t even try to fight for herself in court. It wasn’t until the same judge was presiding over the boyfriends case, and they brought her in as a witness against him, that the judge heard the whole story. What was told here was just the tip of the iceberg that the judge heard.

My mother used to volunteer for a woman’s shelter and there were so many women that were so terrified to leave. They stayed, not because they didn’t want to lose the boyfriend, but because they knew he would find them and kill them or even other immediate family members. There were so many women, that didn’t want to go to the shelter because they were convinced he would find them and kill everyone there! (abusers are very good at using death threats not only against the mother and child, but against her parents and friends, even coworkers!) And as you see from the news, many abusers make good on these threats, and a whole lot of people , including in laws, end up dead)

There were some women, who knew the only way they could get away successfully, is if they made a long term plan. Since money was always kept from them, they would hide a few dollars here or there, an amount they hoped he wouldn’t notice. Sending the kids away to live somewhere else was always a dead giveaway to a controlling abuser, that they were trying to leave him. Sometimes the plans would take a year or two. But sometimes, tragically, before the plans could finally be fully realized, someone would end up dead. Most of the time, it’s the mother herself that ends up dead before she could successfully get away with her kids. In this case, it was a child.

30 Pie-onist Overlord  Oct 11, 2014 7:11:15pm

I wonder what ProtectChillrun’s opinion is of Teh Borshuns. Does she believe that every Fetus Babby must be borned?

31 Dark_Falcon  Oct 11, 2014 7:16:47pm

re: #4 ProtectChildren

Deny
Accuse
Reverse
Victim and
Offender

32 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2014 7:33:36pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

And just like that…poof! Hatchling gone again.

I suspect it’s waiting for this to be a dead thread before recommencing with the lectures.

Yes, hatchling is a coward.


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