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1 Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2014 9:48:20am

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Here’s What the Supreme Court Could Do to Insurance Premiums In Your State

More than 800,000 Floridians would see their monthly insurance premiums rise, from an average of around $70 to an average of around $350, or roughly a factor of five. More than 600,000 people in Texas, about 325,000 in North Carolina, and another 275,000 in Georgia would see insurance premiums soar by similar amounts.

Nationwide, more than 4 million people living in 37 states would be in situations like these. Most would have no way to pay the higher bills, forcing them to drop insurance coverage altogether. Their sudden absence would destabilize insurance markets in those states, giving carriers reason to raise premiums by additional amounts or to flee the states altogether—which would, in turn, lead more people to give up insurance.

The underlying premiums for all people buying insurance on their own in these states would rise by an average of 43 percent, while the number of Americans without insurance would eventually be 7 million higher than it would be otherwise.

newrepublic.com

2 jamesfirecat  Nov 13, 2014 11:26:20am

Never mind, read the entire piece more closely.

3 Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2014 12:16:23pm

re: #2 jamesfirecat

I did. What did I miss?

4 jamesfirecat  Nov 13, 2014 12:21:24pm

re: #3 Skip Intro

I did. What did I miss?

When I said “Never mind, read the entire piece more closely.” meant “read” as in “I just read this book” not “you need to read this book” stupid English language. (I was commenting on how I originally made a post that was incorrect and so edited it out after reading the story more closely)

The only comment I had is you might want to either expand beyond the last paragraph you quote or not quote it at all because minus the context of the rest of the story it is at odds with the rest of said story because I believe it is talking about the original review of if the entire thing was legal rather than the current review, and that is not entirely clear from the way you have quoted it.

5 Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2014 12:24:06pm

re: #4 jamesfirecat

Since I can’t post the whole thing, finding the context is the reader’s job.

6 jamesfirecat  Nov 13, 2014 12:34:12pm

re: #5 Skip Intro

Since I can’t post the whole thing, finding the context is the reader’s job.

F**K me I’m blind. You’re right. Sorry.

I misread the “is” in “So no, this isn’t Bush v. Gore. This is a naked power grab…”

As

“So no, this isn’t Bush v. Gore. This is isn’t a naked power grab…”

Probably because my mind automatically jumps to the conclusion that in hindsight Bush V. Gore was a naked power grab.

So yeah, PEBCAK

(Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard)

7 Indy GOP Refugee  Nov 13, 2014 1:01:52pm

Headline reads like the worst decision already happened and the ACA no longer exists.

8 Dark_Falcon  Nov 13, 2014 5:03:51pm

re: #7 Indy GOP Refugee

Headline reads like the worst decision already happened and the ACA no longer exists.

That was my thought as well. The Supreme Court granting certiorari (which is SCOTUS’ fancy way of accepting a case for review) does not, repeat not mean the Court is going to overturn the law being reviewed.

The Court hasn’t even heard oral arguments on the case, and Linda Greenhouse is already claiming some sort of skullduggery. She cites no clear evidence that something improper has happened, as while SCOTUS normally acts if there is a difference between appellate courts, it is not required to do so. Given the far reaching nature of the ACA and the question of congressional intent, a case can surely be made for prompt action by the high court to clear up the situation.

This op-ed starts from a hostile assumption, and is ultimately just preaching to a liberal choir about how ‘evil’ conservatives are. My rating: 3 Pinocchios.

9 EPR-radar  Nov 14, 2014 12:13:14pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

That was my thought as well. The Supreme Court granting certiorari (which is SCOTUS’ fancy way of accepting a case for review) does not, repeat not mean the Court is going to overturn the law being reviewed.

The Court hasn’t even heard oral arguments on the case, and Linda Greenhouse is already claiming some sort of skullduggery. She cites no clear evidence that something improper has happened, as while SCOTUS normally acts if there is a difference between appellate courts, it is not required to do so. Given the far reaching nature of the ACA and the question of congressional intent, a case can surely be made for prompt action by the high court to clear up the situation.

This op-ed starts from a hostile assumption, and is ultimately just preaching to a liberal choir about how ‘evil’ conservatives are. My rating: 3 Pinocchios.

There is enough evil-doing by conservatives to warrant a great deal of suspicion. However, we do have 2 upcoming opportunities for conservatives to not be blatantly evil:

1) This case.

2) The matter of electoral votes in blue states under GOP rule.

I see no reason to be optimistic about either of these situations.

10 Dark_Falcon  Nov 14, 2014 8:03:20pm

re: #9 EPR-radar

I don’t believe that saying only states can set up exchanges would be ‘evil’. Given the methods used to pass Obamacare and the dishonest way it was presented and written, I would argue the law is due no deference and sections of it should indeed be gutted over what the words in them mean.

The Dems sowed the wind on Obamacare and they now deserve to reap the whirlwind.


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