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1 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 14, 2014 7:04:58am

I used to watch much more of this stuff than I do now. I’m not sure what’s happened to me on this score, just got tired of the stuff, have a harder time seeing the suffering of people portrayed. The stuff on L&O:SVU is especially gritty stuff, for TV, much of it involving the portrayal of violence and abuse of women and children. Anyway, yeah I have no doubt a lot of this works to ratchet people’s fears up.

2 Randall Gross  Nov 14, 2014 7:40:05am

The CBS shows with initials are today’s equivalent of “True Detective” and “True Crime” magazines of yester year. The sick fascination we have with dead bodies is almost always the lead in. CBS stumbled on a formula that serves it well when they first produced Quincy.

3 EiMitch  Nov 14, 2014 10:03:40am

re: #1 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I got tired of watching it too. But mostly because once the shock-value and razzle-dazzle wore off, there was only stupidity left. Lazy plot-device’ing, tv-trope’ing, f***-googling-a-damn-thing’ing, stupidity.

Okay, thats not entirely true. The regular cast was at least interesting for a little while.

Judges have to regularly instruct juries to forget the bs that they’ve seen on tv, because neither court procedures nor forensics work that way. And thats not the biggest sign of how stupid these shows can get. Just to give you a taste, one episode of CSI:NY talked about tracing a hacker by quickly coding a custom GUI. No, really. A freaking GUI. I feel dumber for typing that just now.

4 The Vicious Babushka  Nov 14, 2014 10:07:59am

I love NCIS: Los Angeles because of Linda Hunt, but it seems like every episode Sam & Kallen and Kenzie & Marty are inside somebody’s apartment or house or office or other enclosed space having a shootout with bad guys who are tearing up the furniture with automatic weapons.

5 The Vicious Babushka  Nov 14, 2014 10:10:30am

re: #3 EiMitch

I got tired of watching it too. But mostly because once the shock-value and razzle-dazzle wore off, there was only stupidity left. Lazy plot-device’ing, tv-trope’ing, f***-googling-a-damn-thing’ing, stupidity.

Okay, thats not entirely true. The regular cast was at least interesting for a little while.

Judges have to regularly instruct juries to forget the bs that they’ve seen on tv, because neither court procedures nor forensics work that way. And thats not the biggest sign of how stupid these shows can get. Just to give you a taste, one episode of CSI:NY talked about tracing a hacker by quickly coding a custom GUI. No, really. A freaking GUI. I feel dumber for typing that just now.

Nothing could beat the episode of NCIS where Abby and some other guy (Tony?) were pounding on ONE KEYBOARD to stop a “hack attack”

Also on “Criminal Minds” Penelope’s amazing skills of inner joining tables in different systems, all of which separately would require a warrant because they are collecting other random people’s data while they narrow down the search for the serial killer.

6 EiMitch  Nov 14, 2014 12:17:58pm

re: #5 Vicious Piebola

That NCIS episode slipped my mind. You’d think the keyboard would be the one part of a computer writers would be familiar with. That just compounds the stupidity.

7 Randall Gross  Nov 14, 2014 1:17:06pm

Last week one of the writers from “Scorpion” learned what “ASCII” meant and just had to throw that into the script to paint the show with a faux veneer of geekdom.

8 KingKenrod  Nov 14, 2014 1:49:06pm

I object to the little crotch kick The Mentalist gets here - Patrick Jane could not read minds, he’s a con artist who knows how to read people, not minds. I think it’s a clever set-up, although clearly it has run its course.

My pet peeve about these shows is when they get into legal and courtroom stuff - it’s always terrible. Like suspects who blab confessions when confronted with evidence. Trials for murder where only a few days/weeks pass between arrest and conviction. I guess it’s because you only have 42 minutes of show and people need closure.

I don’t watch a lot of procedural shows, but I usually stick with the ones that are fun - stuff like Criminal Minds is too violent for me, and I will not watch a show that regularly features violence against women as a plot device. I find that stuff too manipulative. Just give me good actors and characters who don’t do dumb things, and I’m an easy sell.

“Elementary” is probably the smartest procedural on right now.

9 Timothy Watson  Nov 14, 2014 2:50:30pm

The only police shows I watch are “Castle” and “Blue Bloods”. Castle because it tends to intentionally subvert the usual tropes associated with police dramas. Admittedly, this season has been pretty lackluster. “Blue Bloods”, mainly because I like Tom Selleck and Donnie Wahlberg (although my respect for Wahlberg has been slipping a lot since he married Jenny McCarthy).

The only other police show I’ve ever really enjoyed were “Southland” and “Boomtown”.

Pretty much every other show gives me an instant headache if I try to watch them.

10 Amory Blaine  Nov 15, 2014 12:04:10am

I have gotten out of having to watch many crappy tv shows over the years with one rule. I don’t watch tv shows centered on:

Doctors
Lawyers
Cops

11 Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2014 5:11:09am

Been pushing this premise for years. The corrosive effect of these shows was striking to our family because we did several multiyear tours without American TV, then would return to be immersed in it. The proliferation of the L&O series through spinoff and syndication made it obvious.

There was no conspiratorial intent, but the effect of the genre was to make Americans distrustful of their neighbors, especially “them”.


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