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1 jhncsy  Dec 11, 2014 2:47:40pm

Is Jones right about atheists and science, as well? Or is that crossing the line?

2 CuriousLurker  Dec 11, 2014 2:53:26pm

re: #1 jhncsy

I just… I can’t even… if someone agrees with Jones on anything more complex or nuanced than something like “water is wet” or “fire is hot”, I don’t know how anyone can take them seriously when they claim to be a rational thinker.

3 Eigth Immortal  Dec 11, 2014 2:58:47pm

re: #1 jhncsy

Let’s ask Sam Harris that question directly. I supposed he’ll say “stopped clock.” Our rejoinder is “when a clock stops, you fix it or stop using it.”

4 HSkol  Dec 11, 2014 7:07:24pm

Sam Harris does have a religion - the Religion of Hatred (I’m not referring to atheism, by the way, but to Harris’ intolerance and hatred). Only those that might bow to the same agenda that he does - with his poor intellectual “fusional amplitudes” - are worthy in his eyes of any bit of another’s compassion or empathy. Harris ain’t right.

5 De Kolta Chair  Dec 11, 2014 9:34:50pm

I realize Harris has books to sell and bills to pay, but can we please go back to Warhol’s fifteen minutes of fame dictum?

6 CuriousLurker  Dec 12, 2014 5:32:46am

re: #4 HSkol

Of course, atheism isn’t about hatred—like any other group of humans there is both good & bad to be found among them.

I don’t know if Harris is simply blind to his own bigotry, or if he’s fully cognizant of it and promoting it intentionally. He’s popular because he provides a veneer of science & intellectualism behind which (some) atheists can hide their decidedly irrational feelings about Muslims. If anything, he harms atheism with his hatred, which is utterly devoid of anything that could be considered humanism.

7 CuriousLurker  Dec 12, 2014 5:37:56am

re: #5 De Kolta Chair

Yeah, he sniffs at Jones for being a demagogue, when Harris’ own behavior is in large part the very definition of demagoguery.

Next up: Sam Harris says Pamela Geller really is a human rights activist.


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