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1 blueraven  Dec 16, 2014 10:38:49am

I am against TSG publishing this woman’s name. She is obviously mentally ill.
Here is an update to the article.

12/16 UPDATE: Following the publication of this story, Sandra McElroy acknowledged to TSG that she is “Witness 40.” Voicing concerns for her minor children, McElroy said that she directed them to delete their Facebook accounts, adding that she has done the same. “After I speak with the prosecutor, attorney, and Police if they say its alright I will call you,” she said. McElroy subsequently asked to have an off-the-record conversation, a request to which a TSG reporter agreed.

That said, that she was allowed to testify in front of the GJ at all is appalling Her ridiculous account has been repeated ad nauseam on Fox News and other RW sites.

2 Skip Intro  Dec 16, 2014 10:39:34am

Secret Grand Juries have had their day and have been found hopelessly incompetent for the job at hand. It’s time they were abolished and replaced by preliminary hearings where both sides get to make their case, in the open.

3 nines09  Dec 16, 2014 10:44:50am

Perfectly legitimate witness. In their eyes. She saw what they wanted. So I guess a truck driver gets a more detailed background check to drive a truck than a Secret Grand Jury “witness” gets to testify? Well F us all.

4 HappyWarrior  Dec 16, 2014 11:48:27am

Fuck McCulloch so hard.

5 calochortus  Dec 16, 2014 12:15:22pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

Secret Grand Juries have had their day and have been found hopelessly incompetent for the job at hand. It’s time they were abolished and replaced by preliminary hearings where both sides get to make their case, in the open.

IIRC, secret grand juries were intended to protect the identity of the accused unless and until there was enough evidence that a trial was warranted. Now they seem to be ass-covering exercises.

6 Aunty Entity Dragon  Dec 16, 2014 12:20:07pm

re: #1 blueraven

I am against TSG publishing this woman’s name. She is obviously mentally ill.
Here is an update to the article.

That said, that she was allowed to testify in front of the GJ at all is appalling Her ridiculous account has been repeated ad nauseam on Fox News and other RW sites.

She is a criminal perjurer. She does not deserve anonymity.

7 blueraven  Dec 16, 2014 12:27:32pm

re: #6 Aunty Entity Dragon

She is a criminal perjurer. She does not deserve anonymity.

She has minor children who could now be in danger. We cant be for doxing for those we don’t like and against for those we do. It is not up to The Smoking Gun, Got News, or any other rag to decide that.

If she is charged with a crime, her name will be out there.

8 cinesimon  Dec 16, 2014 12:55:51pm

re: #7 blueraven

How does that make sense? She says it, therefore it’s true? That’s rather why we’re at this point in the first place: blindly believing the word of an extremely dishonest, racist person. Why would anyone target the children? Especially those on the side interested in an honest justice system?

And yeah - let’s also blindly believe that McCullough would charge her with perjury. While we’re making stuff up out of thin air.

9 blueraven  Dec 16, 2014 1:10:04pm

re: #8 cinesimon

How does that make sense? She says it, therefore it’s true? That’s rather why we’re at this point in the first place: blindly believing the word of an ill person. Why would anyone target the children? Especially those on the side interested in an honest justice system?

Wait…where did I say any part of what she said was true?
Why would anyone target the children?…Sometimes it is more like collateral damage. There are crazy people on all sides.

Anyway, she is not the only one who lied to the GJ. There were others who testified to the benefit of Michael Brown who later admitted they lied. Should their names be published as well?

Witness admits false statements
Witness 35 said Brown was “on his knees” when Wilson shot him in the head.
Under questioning, however, his testimony fell apart.
“What you are saying you saw isn’t forensically possible based on the evidence,” a prosecutor said.
The witness acknowledged making up testimony.
“Are you telling us that the only thing that’s true about all of your statements before this is that you saw that police officer shoot him at point blank range?” a grand juror asked
“Yes,” he answered.

My point is that none of these non-credible witnesses should have been allowed to testify. Sure, expose the lies but leave names out of it. Go after the damn prosecutor, McCullough, instead.

10 team_fukit  Dec 16, 2014 1:47:21pm

I agree, we’re not GotNews. But at first, I was “fukit,” because that’s what team I’m on.

So I’ve redacted my post to remove the name of Witness 40.

11 blueraven  Dec 16, 2014 1:56:45pm

re: #10 team_fukit

I agree, we’re not GotNews. But at first, I was “fukit,” because that’s what team I’m on.

So I’ve redacted my post to remove the name of Witness 40.

Thanks for that. I hope you don’t think my comments were directed at you. It was TSG that published the name. It is out there now, but I do appreciate your integrity.

12 PeterWolf  Dec 16, 2014 4:54:35pm

The big question is now will UpChuck get involved with this case of an apparently false claim. Will he castigate this witness and threaten to expose more of her personal details unless she tells the truth? Will he expose Fox new and other sites for carrying the allegedly false narrative as he did with Rolling Stone.

Of course he wont. We all know what he thinks of the Ferguson shooting.

13 blueraven  Dec 16, 2014 5:15:37pm

re: #12 PeterWolf

The big question is now will UpChuck get involved with this case of an apparently false claim. Will he castigate this witness and threaten to expose more of her personal details unless she tells the truth? Will he expose Fox new and other sites for carrying the allegedly false narrative as he did with Rolling Stone.

Of course he wont. We all know what he thinks of the Ferguson shooting.

Of course not, though it would be interesting to see him try to rationalize why this person deserves more respect than any other liar (real or perceived) that he has gone after.


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