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1 nines09  Dec 24, 2014 2:05:02pm

America. Land Of The Free and Home Of The Duped.

2 Eigth Immortal  Dec 24, 2014 2:12:30pm

Good find, Lumberhead. Max Fisher has turned out to be a solid foreign policy writer. This whole thing reminds me of the joke about perspective from The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

3 Lumberhead  Dec 24, 2014 3:41:32pm

re: #2 Eigth Immortal

Thanks. I actually don’t buy his argument completely but it was nice to see someone push back against the whole “free speech, fuck yeah” thing that’s been going on. I don’t know that it really helps North Korea but I can’t go along with portraying Sony and everyone that watches the movie as brave patriots either.

4 Bubblehead II  Dec 24, 2014 6:18:57pm

Will it help N. Korea if I don’t watch the movie because I think it’s totally juvenile and not worth the time or money?

5 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 24, 2014 8:21:59pm

re: #3 Lumberhead

Brave patriots? Hardly. Aggrieved party in terms of the costs of dealing with the hacks themselves and the direct damages? Oh yes. It’s another demonstration of how current tech favors the attacks in terms of which has the upper hand-offense vs defense. For now the offense has the advantage.

6 Tigger2  Dec 25, 2014 1:02:30am

Wouldn’t it be hell to find out this was a publicity stunt that went haywire. ///

7 sagehen  Dec 25, 2014 4:21:24am

Reviews are terrible. (I wasn’t going to see it anyway, not a Seth Rogan fan, but it’s apparently worse than even I expected).

Go see Selma. Reviews are excellent, award nominations for the director and most of the main cast, and hands up/can’t breath is suddenly making it even more timely than the filmmakers could have anticipated.

8 garzooma  Dec 25, 2014 10:29:10am

Juan Cole, a strong critic of the CIA in general and assassinations in particular nonetheless says rather nice things about the movie (including spoilers).

In fact, despite an unflattering depiction of the Central Intelligence Agency as manipulative and homicidal, the heart of the film isn’t about violent assassination at all. For all its juvenile potty humor and blue language, “The Interview” is an old-fashioned Hollywood piece of idealism. It is getting a 51% critics rating at Rotten Tomatoes, so let’s face it, it is a B movie, sort of an even more vulgar Harold and Kumar type of outing. But if, in the way of the structuralist critics who put aside questions of quality in favor of plot and theme, we consider the message here, it is one of ridicule for an extremely powerful and yet extremely absurd dictator and regime.

9 gwangung  Dec 25, 2014 6:58:29pm

re: #7 sagehen

Reviews are terrible. (I wasn’t going to see it anyway, not a Seth Rogan fan, but it’s apparently worse than even I expected).

Go see Selma. Reviews are excellent, award nominations for the director and most of the main cast, and hands up/can’t breath is suddenly making it even more timely than the filmmakers could have anticipated.

Definitely seeing Selma. It’s damn timely, and it it’s anything like the All the Way/The Great Society, the stage duo logy about LBJ, the parallels are gonna be frightening, even down to the terminology of the racists.

10 Merkin  Dec 26, 2014 6:20:57pm

The threat from North Korea is primarily a product of the conservative fear generating machine’s need in 2003 for a member of the fictitious “axis of evil” that wasn’t in the Middle East and whose name didn’t start with an “I” to prevent the obvious assonance problems when spoken aloud.


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