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1 Sionainn  Jan 15, 2015 7:08:34pm

Good grief, it’s once a week.

I watched a documentary on children memorizing the Qur’an and then competing with children from other countries. I found the recitations beautiful as the children sang specific verses from the Qur’an. I listened to some jackass on the local talk radio station today making fun of the call to prayer. Ugh. I hate people.

2 electrotek  Jan 15, 2015 7:51:56pm

Honestly, I believe this is really unnecessary in a non-Muslim country. The MSA were idiots to even suggest this knowing the tense climate involving Muslims in this country.

We all know when we need to pray for Friday prayers so this wasn’t necessary at all.

3 electrotek  Jan 15, 2015 7:57:29pm
4 team_fukit  Jan 15, 2015 8:27:45pm

It’s not about telling Muslim students when to pray, though, it’s about having the right to freely express your religion in an atmosphere of diversity. Particularly egregious for a university like Duke that constantly brags about its multiculturalism.

5 electrotek  Jan 15, 2015 8:31:41pm

re: #4 team_fukit

It’s not about telling Muslim students when to pray, though, it’s about having the right to freely express your religion in an atmosphere of diversity. Particularly egregious for a university like Duke that constantly brags about its multiculturalism.

I see the reasoning, and I fully understand it.

Still think it’s rather asinine to even suggest such a thing given the tense Islamophobic sentiment going on right now. This could have spurred a Baruch Goldstein-wannabe to gun down worshipers at the university.

6 team_fukit  Jan 15, 2015 8:33:40pm

re: #5 electrotek

yeah, I don’t disagree and can see why some would be concerned about that

7 electrotek  Jan 15, 2015 8:38:49pm

re: #6 team_fukit

yeah, I don’t disagree and can see why some would be concerned about that

Indeed.

I sometimes wonder why we must have to bring all the baggage from the countries we fled from into our adopted homelands. With stuff like these, we just give more ammo to Islamophobes!

This post from the link sums up my sentiments quite well:

…I think it’s going to be counterproductive and spur more Islamaphobia. Sometimes I really wonder why our people are so scared of assimilate and integrate. Yes, this wonderful country gives is the freedome to practice our religion, but there already are numerous facilities for all religions to avail (prayer rooms, student associations etc) does the azaan really have to be called from the clocktower?

I already saw this on social media, and a friend sent me a link where people are going hysterical and threatening to boycott anything Duke related…I would seriously fear for my child’s safety on campus, it only takes one disgruntled psychopath.

When someone gives us an inch, it is important that we should never demand a mile from our hosts.

8 team_fukit  Jan 15, 2015 8:45:45pm

At Duke it’s not like it’s asking a mile, though. Duke University has one of the largest liberal Divinity school communities in the South and they’ve been working to make their programs more multicultural for decades in order to compete with schools like Chicago, Harvard, and Yale. They have dedicated, permanent spaces on campus already for other religious traditions. I can see why you have safety concerns, but doesn’t it trouble you Duke University’s decision here will embolden more bigots?

9 electrotek  Jan 15, 2015 8:59:47pm

re: #8 team_fukit

They have dedicated, permanent spaces on campus already for other religious traditions. I can see why you have safety concerns, but doesn’t it trouble you Duke University’s decision here will embolden more bigots?

The fact that they allow Muslim students space to pray should be enough in my opinion. We live in a non-Muslim society and we have to respect that. We shouldn’t be coming here and expecting others to adhere to our norms.

As for the last sentence, it’s a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t…which is what should have been taken into account when Duke University’s Muslim Student Association decided to request such a thing to the Dean. They clearly knew this would cause a lot of uproar but they went ahead and did it, and created unnecessary publicity over something that shouldn’t have been brought to anyone’s attention to begin with.

It’s the reality of the situation at hand, and just like how I felt it was irresponsible to publish the caricatures of the Prophet, I also feel it was grossly irresponsible for the university’s MSA chapter to come up with this knowing the climate of Islamophobia under way.

10 gwangung  Jan 16, 2015 12:31:07am

Frankly, I think it’s asinine to bow down to bigotry. Period.

11 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 16, 2015 3:25:04am

Franklin Graham. Still a dick.

12 Romantic Heretic  Jan 16, 2015 5:57:55am

re: #11 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

On an article I found about this I said that Mr. Graham is as big a blight on the face of Christianity as the Charlie Hebdo perpetrators are on the face of Islam.

13 Sionainn  Jan 16, 2015 8:17:25am

re: #2 electrotek

Honestly, I believe this is really unnecessary in a non-Muslim country. The MSA were idiots to even suggest this knowing the tense climate involving Muslims in this country.

We all know when we need to pray for Friday prayers so this wasn’t necessary at all.

It’s not necessary for church bells to ring out on Sunday, either. This is a country of all religions and no religions.

14 WhatEVs  Jan 16, 2015 9:46:50am

re: #13 Sionainn

It’s not necessary for church bells to ring out on Sunday, either. This is a country of all religions and no religions.

Personally, I would prefer the latter.

15 Sionainn  Jan 16, 2015 9:50:56am

re: #14 WhatEVs

Personally, I would prefer the latter.

I would, too. However, if that’s not going to happen, then we need to accommodate all religions.

16 WhatEVs  Jan 16, 2015 10:00:24am

re: #15 Sionainn

I would, too. However, if that’s not going to happen, then we need to accommodate all religions.

I am not disagreeing. Accommodating all religions means accommodating no religion, too. The problem is it is never going to happen…for all or for none.

17 Sionainn  Jan 16, 2015 10:01:23am

re: #16 WhatEVs

I am not disagreeing. Accommodating all religions means accommodating no religion, too. The problem is it is never going to happen…for all or for none.

Yep. Sadly true.

18 team_fukit  Jan 16, 2015 10:30:37am

re: #16 WhatEVs

Yeah, and that will continue to be true as long as organizations like Duke University claim to represent diversity but won’t in practice.

20 KerFuFFler  Jan 17, 2015 8:10:02pm

re: #2 electrotek

I am sorry to see that your comments received so many down-dings! While I am not sure that I agree with you, you presented all your ideas politely, respectfully and with an honest intention to engage in discussion that could change the opinion of either yourself or people reading your comments.

Fellow lizards, please lighten up! If you disagree with someone, please feel free to explain your own reasoning. I don’t think it encourages the exchange of ideas I appreciate here at LGF to gang up with down-dings on someone who politely expresses a dissenting opinion.

21 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 18, 2015 6:04:05am

re: #15 Sionainn

I would, too. However, if that’s not going to happen, then we need to accommodate all religions.

That very much depends on what one means by “accommodate”. And also how one accommodates all religions (Scientology? Satanism?). I suppose one could be practical about this: if n% (where n is reasonable) want to be accommodated, maybe they should be (as long as no public/taxpayer resources are used). Yes, even “cults”.

22 team_fukit  Jan 18, 2015 8:06:20am

re: #21 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Percentages can get dicey with religion in the US though: American Jews make up less than .2% of states like Wyoming, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Utah, Mississippi, and the Dakotas.

I like the idea from The Fundamental Constitutions of Carolina (1665), a failed colonial proprietary charter that was authored by a young John Locke. To encourage religious diversity in the colony, Locke set the number at 7 adherents to define any religious group.

In today times, this would probably run afoul of the IRS though.

23 Patricia Kayden  Jan 18, 2015 11:52:44am

re: #11 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Franklin Graham. Still a dick.

I’ve always kind of liked Billy Graham but wow is Franklin ever boorish. Reminds me of how much of a rightwinger wannabe Bernice King has turned out to be. Sometimes the apple falls far from the tree.


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