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1 team_fukit  Jan 17, 2015 6:22:05am

All of this talk really troubles me, seems like the unspoken thought behind the “no-go zone” theory is that the host country should root those Muslim enclave communities out pogrom-style. Or maybe I should say Einsatzgruppen-style because it’d be done by militarized police forces.

I was in an argument with my fundie cousin on FB yesterday over the Duke thing, and he says of Islam that “You can’t reason with evil. You must face it head on and destroy it spiritual with the truth and then naturally if necessary.” It took a while to sink in… “naturally” I’m not used to hearing such casual endorsements of genocide. But I guess I should get used to it, since it’s about to be Islamophobia season again

2 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 17, 2015 7:06:08am

I would love a single proven example of a “no-go zone” as defined by these nuts.
There are some “no-go zones” for the police (which means that the police must exercise extra-caution while working there), which have nothing to do with hatred of non-Muslims, Shariah rule and other imaginative bullshit. They’re not necessarily defined by the religion of their residents either (they tend to consist of poor immigrants/children of immigrants). Similar zones exist in Israel too, both among some Arabs and Jewish fundamentalists. I don’t see Jindal criticizing Mea Shearim.

3 Lidane  Jan 17, 2015 7:16:05am

Jindal isn’t the only one. I keep seeing various RWNJs talking about how it’s been proven that these no-go zones exist in France and the UK when the exact opposite is true.

4 Lumberhead  Jan 17, 2015 7:24:36am
As evidence of the existence of “no-go zones,” Jindal’s office cited blog posts from the Gatestone Foundation, which is chaired by former State Department official John Bolton.

The citing of blog posts always inspires my confidence in an elected official.

5 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 17, 2015 7:31:45am

re: #4 Lumberhead

The citing of blog posts always inspires my confidence in an elected official.

Esp. blogs which still proudly display the Fjordman articles. More than half of Breivik’s manifesto consisted of Fjordman’s writings, attributed and not.

6 Lidane  Jan 17, 2015 7:38:15am

re: #4 Lumberhead

I keep seeing the Gatestone links everywhere too. It’s amazing what delusions people will allow themselves to believe.

7 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 17, 2015 7:40:05am

re: #6 Lidane

Elie Wiesel must be so proud to be on its board of advisors.

8 Dark_Falcon  Jan 17, 2015 8:53:42am

re: #3 Lidane

Jindal isn’t the only one. I keep seeing various RWNJs talking about how it’s been proven that these no-go zones exist in France and the UK when the exact opposite is true.

It makes me sick. The ‘no-go zone’ meme is a outright lie, and its being kept going for little reason I can except confirmation bias.

9 CuriousLurker  Jan 17, 2015 8:53:50am

OFFS. The stupid, it burns.

I’m pretty sure they think that if enough of them repeat it and repeat if often, then people will start to believe it. I know their base will, but I doubt—or at least hope—that the rest of the public has enough sense to realize it’s just a bunch of scare mongering lies.

10 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Jan 17, 2015 9:04:21am

re: #9 CuriousLurker

Even Pipes, who was among the first (if not the first) to use the meme, had to backtrack when he actually visited these places. Of course it won’t stop the wingnuts. Their world is now full not only of FEMA camps but also of Shariah no-go zones.

11 CuriousLurker  Jan 17, 2015 9:22:10am

re: #10 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

[…] Their world is now full not only of FEMA camps but also of Shariah no-go zones.

Scary world they live in.

You’re right, One of the articles I read mentioned Pipes backing down. That kind of surprised me considering the grant Fjordman received form his Middle East Forum.

12 CriticalDragon1177  Jan 17, 2015 10:14:37am

By Aye Pod,

I’d like someone to demand that Jindel give us a specific location for one of these “no go zones”

13 Dark_Falcon  Jan 17, 2015 6:02:13pm

For those who want to know what some of those ‘no go zones’ are really like,
I’ve got a Page about a terrific article.

14 CriticalDragon1177  Jan 17, 2015 6:50:09pm

re: #13 Dark_Falcon

For those who want to know what some of those ‘no go zones’ are really like,
I’ve got a Page about a terrific article.

And of course the “Fox News Facts” are utterly wrong.

15 team_fukit  Jan 17, 2015 11:27:22pm

Isn’t there an app to find “no-go zones” in the US?//

(haha, I’m sure this is what Jindal thinks unironically)

16 EPR-radar  Jan 19, 2015 3:25:45pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

It makes me sick. The ‘no-go zone’ meme is a outright lie, and its being kept going for little reason I can except confirmation bias.

It is being kept alive as part of the ongoing attempts by US right wing nut jobs to make political scapegoating acceptable.


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