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1 Great White Snark  Jan 30, 2015 12:46:49pm

What a boondoggle! Same unit for terror and protests? Hey let’s make another multitasking unit-Traffic enforcement and Fraud.

2 lawhawk  Jan 30, 2015 1:08:28pm

The NYPD already has Hercules units for counter/anti-terrorism operations, an ESU that has enough firepower on its own to handle most any crisis (and gear to match). The conflation of a new heavily armed unit that will address both counter terrorism and protests is a very odd choice. They are totally different policing methodologies, and the NYPD has generally handled protests quite differently than other policing activities. They have community liasons and often give leeway to demonstrators when they’ve got the necessary permits, and even sometimes when they don’t.

But to throw these two conflicting job responsibilities into one team makes no sense at all. It seems to be a boondoggle or an excuse to push more heavily armed cops into local precincts who can also deal with protests.

I have a bad feeling about this proposal.

3 Great White Snark  Jan 30, 2015 1:17:41pm

re: #2 lawhawk

Lawhawk it’s well past time to roll back some of the post 9/11 changes. Lots of them, this is completely out of hand.

4 [deleted]  Jan 30, 2015 4:28:39pm
5 Dark_Falcon  Jan 30, 2015 4:51:48pm

re: #4 EiMitch

And a hearty “Take a long walk off a short East River pier!” right back at you, boyo!

6 lawhawk  Jan 30, 2015 4:53:52pm

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

I think this is the Department’s way of trying to recapture some of the funding that had gone to Operation Atlas, which deployed additional Hercules teams around the city. Funding for Operation Atlas had stopped a few years back, so this may be a way to get that funding back.

They’d be better off with spending that money on better training for cops.

7 CuriousLurker  Jan 30, 2015 4:56:42pm

re: #4 EiMitch

You might want to rethink your wording, pissed off or not. People have been banned for what you’re doing there.

8 Dark_Falcon  Jan 30, 2015 5:10:57pm

re: #6 lawhawk

I think this is the Department’s way of trying to recapture some of the funding that had gone to Operation Atlas, which deployed additional Hercules teams around the city. Funding for Operation Atlas had stopped a few years back, so this may be a way to get that funding back.

They’d be better off with spending that money on better training for cops.

I think some of it is because a new group will attract more internal and external attention, and thus better appeal to the NYPD’s officers and the force’s supporters.

I also think there is an element of legacy building at work: The NYPD’s post 9/11 anti-terror framework was built up under Ray Kelly’s direction. I think one of William Bratton’s motives is to create something of his own in the counter-terror sphere.

The Strategic Response Group can thus be understood in part as ‘legacy building’.

9 EiMitch  Jan 31, 2015 11:46:50am

I’m sorry everyone. It (hopefully) won’t happen again.


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