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1 Lidane  Feb 27, 2015 10:24:32am

I voted none of the above.

I like Biden, but he’s hit his career’s end. He won’t be POTUS. I can’t bring myself to vote for Clinton in the primaries just because I want fresh blood and fresh ideas from the Dems. And while I agree with a lot of what Bernie Sanders says, he’s not a viable national candidate. He’s the guy who keeps the eventual nominee on their toes by needling them from the left.

I don’t know who I want in 2016 yet. I haven’t seen anyone so far that gets me excited.

2 Great White Snark  Feb 27, 2015 10:33:55am

re: #1 Lidane

Someone better excite the voters because the GOP is not going to lay down and roll over.

3 Lidane  Feb 27, 2015 10:54:33am

re: #2 Great White Snark

Someone better excite the voters because the GOP is not going to lay down and roll over.

I’m sure someone will. Hell, for all I know Hillary will get the Dems excited and ready to vote. I’m just not enthused about her candidacy because I’m dreading the prospect of Bush v. Clinton II: Electoral Boogaloo.

4 Decatur Deb  Feb 27, 2015 11:04:45am

Want Bernie Sanders for Prez, but want HRC for the nominee. Life is like that.

5 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 27, 2015 11:43:03am

ELIZABETH WARREN!

6 HappyWarrior  Feb 27, 2015 11:54:48am

None of the Above. Clinton doesn’t excite me. I realize she’s smart and capable enough but I don’t know about her. Biden, I like the most of the three and he would be the most presidentialy viable but the man would turn 75 his first year in office. Love ya Joe and you’ve been an excellent VP and before that one of the greatest senators in modern times but enjoy the grandkids and retirement. Bernie is someone I ideologically agree with the most of these three but he’s really not someone that I think is presidential material. I actually feel the same way about Warren at this point. Two names I like are Hillary’s fellow New Yorker, Kirsten Gillibrand and the former governor of Maryland, Martin O’Malley. Both are fairly young, fresh, and progressive minded. O’Malley was one of the first governors to come out in favor of SSM just like Gillbrand on the Senate side. I think Hillary will excite a good part of the Dem base by the way but I am just not excited about her. I don’t know. I really do sincerely feel like Biden her time has come and gone.

7 Lumberhead  Feb 27, 2015 12:29:33pm

I doubt that I’d vote for him but I think Jim Webb is a serious person considering a primary run.

8 team_fukit  Feb 27, 2015 1:44:18pm

I voted none of the above, and I’d almost seriously wager that the repubs will win the next one because the dems will fail to field any exciting candidates or connect with voters in any meaningful way.

Biden’s experience in Congress reminds me of LBJ, but he doesn’t have the grit. Plus there’s the weird.

I do like Gillibrand, she seems very warm and very smart, but can she stand the constant barrage of bullshit from the Right? I know Hillary could, but at the expense of becoming insular - plus there’s the whole cozy with Wall Street/elitist thing with Hillary. But she’s got by far the best foreign policy cred.

I like Sanders personally, but his national campaign and the results would probably be another Mondale or McGovern

O’Malley seems cool, so does Cory Booker. But I usually assume any politician on the 95 corridor is just a corruption scandal waiting to break.

I’d like to see Keith Ellison run, “to make conservative heads explode”

9 bratwurst  Feb 27, 2015 1:49:25pm

re: #2 Great White Snark

Someone better excite the voters because the GOP is not going to lay down and roll over.

The excitement level for Obama in 2012 was not very high, but he won easily anyway.

I do not imagine the GOP primary process will be as destructive and dysfunctional as last time (mainly because it would be virtually impossible!), but I think it is inevitable the the biggest selling point for the future Democratic nominee will be a chance to vote against the future GOP nominee.

10 team_fukit  Feb 27, 2015 1:58:18pm

i think it’s kinda funny that John Kerry and Al Gore aren’t even part of the conversation

11 bratwurst  Feb 27, 2015 2:12:51pm

re: #10 team_fukit

i think it’s kinda funny that John Kerry and Al Gore aren’t even part of the conversation

Why? It has been about half a century since someone who lost a general election has sought another nomination.

12 team_fukit  Feb 27, 2015 2:46:58pm

re: #11 bratwurst

Gore, sure. But one might think of Kerry being in the mix as Sec. of State

13 Charles Johnson  Feb 27, 2015 2:55:00pm

Ugh. I’m totally unexcited by any of these choices.

14 Doofus  Feb 27, 2015 3:01:11pm

re: #5 The Mother Of All Pies

It will be Elizabeth Warren.

15 calochortus  Feb 27, 2015 3:30:07pm

re: #14 Doofus

It will be Elizabeth Warren.

I don’t know. This is very much 3rd hand, but there have been some questions about temperament and competence among some (including liberals) who know her.

Disclaimer: I don’t know enough about her to have an opinion myself, I merely point out that she is an unknown quantity and not universally loved. If she runs there’s a lot more information that will surface-which could be good or bad.

16 Doofus  Feb 27, 2015 4:04:53pm

re: #15 calochortus

I just got the sense that the Obama administration will likely hand off the baton to the next Democratic nominee (who they would like), and my guess was Elizabeth Warren. Nothing scientific or anything to link to, just a sense.

17 Decatur Deb  Feb 27, 2015 4:11:25pm

I know those I don’t want any closer to the WH than LaFayette Park. That’s enough to get me working for whoever the Dems settle on.

18 Skip Intro  Feb 27, 2015 5:05:52pm

Looks like we’ll all be voting for Jeb Bush just to keep the complete crazies out of the WH because I think, just like in 2014, the Dems don’t have a clue what to do because once again they’ve kept a complete incompetent as DNC head.

Personally I’d like to see the Repubs nominate Christie for one reason. If he won, he wouldn’t put up with any of his party’s state’s rights/secessionist horseshit for a second if it would diminish his power (as it would). I’d love to see Christie turn his wraith against the tea bagging lunatics in his party.

19 bratwurst  Feb 27, 2015 5:31:25pm

re: #18 Skip Intro

Looks like we’ll all be voting for Jeb Bush

I…uh…won’t be doing that. Ever.

20 Nyet  Feb 27, 2015 5:47:26pm

I voted, though not a citizen (sorry).

21 aagcobb  Feb 27, 2015 5:52:00pm

re: #7 Lumberhead

I doubt that I’d vote for him but I think Jim Webb is a serious person considering a primary run.

What I find interesting about Jim Webb is that he may well represent the last chance to elect a veteran of the Vietnam War President. WWII produced six presidents who served in a Theater of the War, even if only briefly (LBJ). But the Vietnam vets, Gore, Kerry and McCain, all lost to either the two guys who dodged Vietnam or our first post-Vietnam generation president, Obama. Since Webb is an extreme long shot, its not looking good.

22 lawhawk  Feb 27, 2015 5:52:19pm

None of the above.

2016 may end up being a vote against whoever the GOP runs as opposed to finding a Democrat to like. It’s way too early in this to know for sure what’s going to happen in the primaries, but all this chatter about Hillary being the inevitable candidate strikes me as being premature.

I wish there were other candidates I could get behind as possible contenders.

Even if it’s just to provide a good foil to Hillary - I don’t want an uncontested primary. So, if it’s Kirsten Gillibrand or Cory Booker or Elizabeth Warren or someone that isn’t even on the radar at the moment.

Joe Biden? That’d be interesting.

23 aagcobb  Feb 27, 2015 5:57:10pm

re: #22 lawhawk

None of the above.

2016 may end up being a vote against whoever the GOP runs as opposed to finding a Democrat to like. It’s way too early in this to know for sure what’s going to happen in the primaries, but all this chatter about Hillary being the inevitable candidate strikes me as being premature.

I wish there were other candidates I could get behind as possible contenders.

Even if it’s just to provide a good foil to Hillary - I don’t want an uncontested primary. So, if it’s Kirsten Gillibrand or Cory Booker or Elizabeth Warren or someone that isn’t even on the radar at the moment.

Joe Biden? That’d be interesting.

I’m thinking Booker may be Hillary’s VP pick, which would help keep African-American turnout high. As long as the minority vote turns out, I don’t see the GOP nominee having much of a chance of winning, which is why the GOP is pushing so hard to suppress the vote.

24 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 27, 2015 6:29:45pm

I’d rather see Kirsten Gillibrand with Tammy Baldwin as her VP candidate but that’s not too likely either.

I picked Bernie for this poll but he’d get stomped into the ground in the General Election.

Then again, so will Clinton. People really underestimate how viciously she is hated by the right wing. They will come out of the wood-works to defeat her and if she did manage to win would happily start the second civil war rather then accept her as president.

25 lostlakehiker  Feb 27, 2015 7:32:00pm

re: #24 William Barnett-Lewis

I’d rather see Kirsten Gillibrand with Tammy Baldwin as her VP candidate but that’s not too likely either.

I picked Bernie for this poll but he’d get stomped into the ground in the General Election.

Then again, so will Clinton. People really underestimate how viciously she is hated by the right wing. They will come out of the wood-works to defeat her and if she did manage to win would happily start the second civil war rather then accept her as president.

You’re speaking figuratively, right? Because there wouldn’t really be a civil war over the issue. The Republican establishment would counsel against it, governors would veto secession bills even if they did pass…and few if any would pass…and that would be that.

Everybody with any shred of sense has to know that the whole thing would end as a rotten bloody farce at best, and a bloody disaster if it somehow gathered any momentum. The federal government would win hands down. Even the clowns who talk big would get cold feet when their own lives, fortunes, and, well, no risk on that third point, were on the line.

26 LoonRadio  Feb 27, 2015 9:10:04pm

If Al Franken declares, my credit card might catch fire.

27 teleskiguy  Feb 27, 2015 9:44:41pm

John Hickenlooper. Even in an obstinate GOP environment like Colorado, he wins elections and firmly tacks center-left.

28 subterraneanhomesickalien  Feb 28, 2015 1:12:38am

I think that that list just proves how much of a once in a generation kind of political talent that Barack Obama really was.

I mean can you name one person on either parties bench that has the gravitas and political acumen?

To me he was Bill Clinton without the craven triangulation bullshit that that whole crew brought with them from Arkansas.

Its a goddamn shame that his political career will effectively be over at the age of 57.

29 Amory Blaine  Feb 28, 2015 4:12:53am

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30 Amory Blaine  Feb 28, 2015 4:15:47am
31 aagcobb  Feb 28, 2015 5:23:48am

re: #24 William Barnett-Lewis

I’d rather see Kirsten Gillibrand with Tammy Baldwin as her VP candidate but that’s not too likely either.

I picked Bernie for this poll but he’d get stomped into the ground in the General Election.

Then again, so will Clinton. People really underestimate how viciously she is hated by the right wing. They will come out of the wood-works to defeat her and if she did manage to win would happily start the second civil war rather then accept her as president.

Really, you think Hillary is hated more than Obama? Because as much as they hated him, the President won both of his elections handily.

32 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 5:31:21am

re: #27 teleskiguy

John Hickenlooper. Even in an obstinate GOP environment like Colorado, he wins elections and firmly tacks center-left.

Won’t fit on a bumper sticker.

33 Decatur Deb  Feb 28, 2015 5:39:23am

MoveOn, created to defend WJC from the impeachment bs, is pushing Warren. I’ve declined, saving available money and energy for the nominee. Won’t waste it helping Democrats weaken each other in this climate.

34 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 28, 2015 11:00:36am

re: #26 LoonRadio

If Al Franken declares, my credit card might catch fire.

I hadn’t really thought of him but on reflection, Franken might be just the guy. Like Ronald Reagan, he was mainly known for his involvement in pop culture but, unlike Reagan, he was a talented writer as well as a performer. As a senator, he has shed his comedic persona, coming across as a very serious and well informed advocate. Even so, the legacy of that persona, especially Franken’s great talent for highlighting the absurd, might just come in handy in a presidential campaign, especially if the GOP goes full metal kookburger and nominates Cruz or Paul. In the Senate he has been especially strong on veterans issues and defense reform. He performed overseas for the USO and has received that organization’s Metro Merit Award for 10 years continuous service.

35 team_fukit  Feb 28, 2015 12:13:50pm

re: #28 subterraneanhomesickalien

if Obama could run for a third term, I’d vote for him

36 subterraneanhomesickalien  Feb 28, 2015 2:50:08pm

re: #35 team_fukit

Id go all FDR on him an vote for him four times if I could.


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