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1 sffilk  Mar 19, 2015 7:00:40am

What people don’t WANT to remember is that there is already a Palestinian Arab state: it’s called JORDAN.

2 Dr. Matt  Mar 19, 2015 7:23:10am

The US elected a right-wing leader and eventually voters woke up. Hopefully the Israeli people wake up soon to the fact the conservative leadership doesn’t care about you and is innately dangerous.

3 Dr. Matt  Mar 19, 2015 9:46:44am

re: #1 sffilk

What people don’t WANT to remember is that there is already a Palestinian Arab state: it’s called JORDAN.

1. Which people do not WANT to remember this?

2. Jordan isn’t a “Palestinian state”. It is the only Arab country to fully integrate Palestinian refugees.

4 CuriousLurker  Mar 19, 2015 1:02:51pm

re: #1 sffilk

What people don’t WANT to remember is that there is already a Palestinian Arab state: it’s called JORDAN.

Nonsense.

Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2013: Jordan

National/Racial/Ethnic Minorities

There were four groups of Palestinians residing in the country, many of whom faced some discrimination. Those who migrated to the country and the Jordan-controlled West Bank after the 1948 Arab-Israeli war received full citizenship, as did those who migrated to the country after the 1967 war and hold no residency entitlement in the West Bank. Those still holding residency in the West Bank after 1967 were no longer eligible to claim full citizenship, but they could obtain temporary travel documents without national identification numbers, provided they did not also carry a Palestinian Authority travel document. These individuals had access to some government services but paid noncitizen rates at hospitals, educational institutions, and training centers. Refugees who fled Gaza after 1967 were not entitled to citizenship and were issued temporary travel documents without national numbers. These persons had no access to government services and were almost completely dependent on UNRWA services. Finally, Syrians of Palestinian origin who were able to enter Jordan, despite many being turned away at the border, have access to UNRWA and government services, and do not face official discrimination, although they were considered refugees.

Palestinians were underrepresented in parliament and senior positions in the government and the military, as well as in admissions to public universities. They had limited access to university scholarships. […]

5 Nyet  Mar 19, 2015 3:44:47pm

Even Daniel Pipes rejects this as nonsense:

The Jordan-is-Palestine argument rests on four main premises: that Palestine historically included Jordan; that the British-governed Mandate of Palestine included the entire territory of today’s Israel and Jordan; that the two regions are geographically indistinguishable; and that Palestinian and Jordanian leaders themselves believe Jordan and Palestine identical. The trouble is, neither the historical record nor the map unambiguously supports any of these propositions. Rather, they are based on a selective knowledge of history and geography, a narrow and eccentric reading of the British Mandate, and a distortion of inter-Arab political dynamics.

Specious arguments tend to have mischievous effects and the Jordan-is-Palestine tactic is no exception. In the end, it is likely to advance the cause of a Palestinian state on the West Bank as well as the East, and will rebound dangerously against both Israeli and American interests.
[…]
The Jordan-is-Palestine idea is not only historically wrong, legally superficial, geographically ignorant, and politically procrustean, but its implementation would be extremely dangerous. Espousal of this idea by people who genuinely care about Israel’s security, and who long to make the conflict less intractable by widening the territorial scope for its solution, does not reduce the danger it poses.

But of course the thesis was promoted in various fraudulent books, like that of Joan Peters, so it’s popular among the ignorant.


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