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1 BigPapa  Mar 28, 2015 8:34:52pm
Conservatives aren’t anti-science or pro-science. But, they are pro-common-sense.

Every time I see somebody espouse common sense in rejecting science my first thought is that common sense would be listening to scientists.

So yes, the conservatives and the GOP are anti-science and anti-common sense.

2 Drive By Commenter  Mar 28, 2015 10:06:47pm

Just struggling to put lipstick on a pig. Here’s some common sense tidbits from Conservative common sense science guys.

3 Shiplord Kirel  Mar 28, 2015 11:27:43pm

When I see every GOP presidential candidate groveling to the Koch brothers’ climate change denialism and to the young Earth creationist superstition, it is a little hard to accept that anti-science does not have a distinctive tilt to the right or that scientists are the ones failing to exhibit common sense over these issues.

The more conservative they are, the more they grovel in fact. Ted Cruz, who is arguably the most conservative of the lot, specifically chose a center of young Earth creationist agitation, Liberty University, to announce his candidacy. He has recently compared himself to Galileo for resisting the climate change consensus, exposing himself as scientifically and historically illiterate in the process.

4 Thanos  Mar 29, 2015 4:56:53am

The right is anti science, trying to pretend it isn’t is just pathetic.

5 Thanos  Mar 29, 2015 4:59:56am
Scientists tell us about evolutionary theory. But common sense tells many people that the Bible is correct. In fact, over 40% of Americans believe the bible. Compare that to the 5% of Americans who are scientists and engineers. Which group should politicians serve?

This is apples v oranges, and basic logical fallacy. The site should not have “Reason” in its name. Pretending that listening to a small pocket of deranged fundamentalist zealots is listening to the majority is just ludicrous.
Here are a ton of charts that compare the views of the public towards science, the views of scientists, the views of the benefits of science - if you actually read the charts and compare the broad spectrum of opinion then your argument regarding conservatives listening to the majority is shredded. pewinternet.org

6 Charles Johnson  Mar 29, 2015 7:03:18am

It’s hilarious that an article trying to pretend conservatives aren’t anti-science contains an absolutely ludicrous statement like this:

Scientists tell us that carbon dioxide is warming the planet. But basic common sense tells many people that plants breathe carbon dioxide and produce oxygen. They claim that the more carbon dioxide we produce, the more plants thrive, and the more oxygen they make for us.

Fail.

7 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 29, 2015 7:31:54am

wow. what an insipid, pandering, scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel article. “Common Sense” as a measure of scientific accuracy? Let’s take that premise to its natural ends:

“Common Sense” tells you the Earth is Flat because well, Jesus didn’t fall off of it.

“Common Sense” tells you that two particles cannot have ‘Spooky” action at a distance. That spooky stuff doesn’t make sense and it sounds like the work of the Devil . So there.

“Common Sense” tells you that the Sun is the center of the universe because Jesus, once again.

“Common Sense” tells us that those bright objects in the sky are fixed in place and that the sky is a solid object with windows in it for rain to fall through (Babylonian=>Early Bible myth).

So there, scientists! Common Sense!

8 electrotek  Mar 29, 2015 8:59:23am

Conservatives are also anti-intelligence.

9 Romantic Heretic  Mar 29, 2015 1:09:42pm

Conservatives are not anti-science.

The revolutionary fascistic theocrats masquerading as conservatives are.

10 garzooma  Mar 29, 2015 2:44:47pm

Just admitting you’re not pro-science (“Conservatives aren’t anti-science or pro-science”) is pretty bad.

11 HappyWarrior  Mar 29, 2015 6:28:25pm

IF they were pro-science, more of them wouldn’t liken evolutionary theory to Satanism or Nazism. So no, I don’t think conservatives are pro science at all.

12 Charles Johnson  Mar 29, 2015 7:40:29pm

I’m getting the feeling none of these comments are even registering with the person who posted this ludicrous article.

13 goddamnedfrank  Mar 29, 2015 9:10:49pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Yep.

But an unprecedented three-year experiment conducted at Stanford University is raising questions about that long-held assumption. Writing in the journal Science, researchers concluded that elevated atmospheric CO2 actually reduces plant growth when combined with other likely consequences of climate change — namely, higher temperatures, increased precipitation or increased nitrogen deposits in the soil.

The results of the study may prompt researchers and policymakers to rethink one of the standard arguments against taking action to prevent global warming: that natural ecosystems will minimize the problem of fossil fuel emissions by transferring large amounts of carbon in the atmosphere to plants and soils.

“Perhaps we won’t get as much help with the carbon problem as we thought we could, and we will need to put more emphasis on both managing vegetation and reducing emissions,” said Harold A. Mooney, the Paul S. Achilles Professor of Environmental Biology at Stanford and co-author of the Dec. 6 Science study.

He noted that the Stanford study is the first ecosystem-scale experiment to apply four climate change factors across several generations of plants.

14 CriticalDragon1177  Mar 30, 2015 12:04:05am

Fred72,

American Conservatives are so “pro science” they believe climate change is a lie and creationism is science.

15 CriticalDragon1177  Mar 30, 2015 12:05:11am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

It’s hilarious that an article trying to pretend conservatives aren’t anti-science contains an absolutely ludicrous statement like this:

Scientists tell us that carbon dioxide is warming the planet. But basic common sense tells many people that plants breathe carbon dioxide and produce oxygen. They claim that the more carbon dioxide we produce, the more plants thrive, and the more oxygen they make for us.

Fail.

Epic Fail!

16 EiMitch  Mar 30, 2015 2:05:15am

If Klansmen can appear on camera in regalia while denying they’re a racist hate-group, then there is no reason bible-thumpers can’t deny they’re anti-science. It’s all about self-delusion branding.

17 Nyet  Mar 30, 2015 2:07:49am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

I’m getting the feeling none of these comments are even registering with the person who posted this ludicrous article.

Maybe. But that person posted the article to laugh at it.

18 Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2015 5:00:42am

re: #17 Nyet

If you check out his other pages, it doesn’t look like that’s true. I don’t think he was laughing at this article at all; but maybe he can clarify.

19 No Country For Old Haters  Mar 30, 2015 6:55:49am

re: #9 Romantic Heretic

Conservatives are not anti-science.

The revolutionary fascistic theocrats masquerading as conservatives are.

Which is just about everyone who calls themselves “conservative,” so what’s the difference?

20 Decatur Deb  Mar 30, 2015 6:58:37am

re: #19 No Country For Old Haters

Which is just about everyone who calls themselves “conservative,” so what’s the difference?

But there is an ‘Ideal’ conservative. They live on a flat 2-dimensional world with perfectly spherical cows.

21 Fred72  Mar 30, 2015 9:17:15am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

If you check out his other pages, it doesn’t look like that’s true. I don’t think he was laughing at this article at all; but maybe he can clarify.

Not laughing. More like slowly shaking my head. Okay, maybe laughing, but sort of like how Rhett Butler laughed when Atlanta was burning to the ground.

22 Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2015 9:47:46am

re: #21 Fred72

Uh, OK, but maybe you can just say whether or not you’re agreeing with this article? I see you’ve linked to the site before, when they tried to excuse the Iran-Contra scandal.

23 StephenMeansMe  Mar 30, 2015 1:24:29pm

Uh, the history of science is pretty much the history of destroying common-sense notions about reality. It’s not “common sense” that plants would absorb CO2, because the very existence of CO2 isn’t “common sense.” It took scientists to figure out that, for example, there wasn’t just one undifferentiated “Air” element.

(Philosophy, properly done, is the other destroyer of common sense. Makes sense that conservatives don’t do much of that either.)

24 Fred72  Mar 30, 2015 2:46:48pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Uh, OK, but maybe you can just say whether or not you’re agreeing with this article? I see you’ve linked to the site before, when they tried to excuse the Iran-Contra scandal.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. When I wrote “slowly shaking my head” I meant in a horizontal direction, not a vertical direction. So no, I don’t agree with the contents of the article.

I post Conservative Reason articles for humor value. I keep up with a smattering of right-wing blogs; something about that old Klingon saying about keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

25 Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2015 3:07:16pm

re: #24 Fred72

OK, then! Thanks for making that clear.

26 Nyet  Mar 31, 2015 6:49:01am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

If you check out his other pages, it doesn’t look like that’s true.

It was exactly after looking at his other pages that it became clear to me that he was laughing at, not whinging with.


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