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1 Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2015 7:43:02pm

Heres hoping this does well William

2 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 7, 2015 7:55:54pm

I am too though, as with everything in life, it remains to be seen. :)

3 A Cranky One  Apr 7, 2015 8:01:22pm

Sounds like an interesting project. My father was a minister who made a difference all over the world. What I learned from him is that true witness is how you live your life and deal with other people, not what you say.

The greatest compliment I think he ever received was simple: he lived his life treating other people like Jesus in disguise. To be in his presence was to feel loved.

Best of luck on your project. Made a small donation in honor of my dad.

4 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 7, 2015 8:09:02pm

Thank you. It sounds like your father lived the way and I hope to do likewise.

5 WhatEVs  Apr 7, 2015 9:41:12pm

You can self publish on Amazon and Kobo. There are publishing options for On Demand (one at a time), if you want to offer a printed book (they’re pretty pricy, like $15 or more per book) but all options.

There are numerous books on Amazon (and in libraries) that talk about how to get published. I’m betting a Christian publishing house might be the best bet).

I’m going to tweet this.

Best of luck to you and on your project.

6 Nyet  Apr 8, 2015 5:47:24am

Keep&Share doesn’t show the file, wants me to have an account first. Perhaps Google Docs?

7 Thanos  Apr 8, 2015 6:28:24am

Ortho: Straight or upright
Praxis: Practice or Custom

Most folks are not going to get that, and some non-academic folks might run away from the combinatory Greek word like it is the plague. You might want to consider a more palatable and comfortable title in modern vernacular if you want to achieve a wider audience, put the big word in teh subtitlez.

One more suggestion: you could add an “Also See:
and then link your other other posts beneath that.

8 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 8, 2015 6:42:08am

re: #6 Nyet

Keep&Share doesn’t show the file, wants me to have an account first. Perhaps Google Docs?

Glad I checked this. I’ll get it fixed.

9 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 8, 2015 6:48:13am

re: #6 Nyet

Keep&Share doesn’t show the file, wants me to have an account first. Perhaps Google Docs?

I think I have Google Docs set up right now. Let me know if it still doesn’t work and I’ll fix it when I get up after a few hours of sleep.

10 Nyet  Apr 8, 2015 7:03:36am

re: #9 William Barnett-Lewis

You should turn on the option somewhere to share it generally, right now one still has to request access.

11 Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 8, 2015 8:16:24am

re: #7 Thanos

Ortho: Straight or upright
Praxis: Practice or Custom

Most folks are not going to get that, and some non-academic folks might run away from the combinatory Greek word like it is the plague. You might want to consider a more palatable and comfortable title in modern vernacular if you want to achieve a wider audience, put the big word in teh subtitlez.

I was going to make the same suggestion. As most writers will tell you one of the most important, if not the most important elements of any book is the title. The title is what catches the attention of readers and although a short title is preferable, I don’t think most people will know what the word means. I also like the title/subtitle suggestion.

Something like: Heart of a King: Love & Orthodoxy or The center: Rediscovering Christ’s love or even something short and simple like Broken Union (referencing not only our divided nation but also the so-called Christians who do not follow Christ)

Aside from that, as a fellow Christian with similar beliefs about how so many professed believers are NOT acting as Christ would, I love your idea. I can’t donate anything at the moment, but I’ll try to kick you something next payday in about a week.

12 FemNaziBitch  Apr 8, 2015 9:45:19am

I also sent a request for the Google Doc.—as ggt

Will have to see how the finances are at the end of the month . .

13 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 8, 2015 11:15:21am

re: #10 Nyet

You should turn on the option somewhere to share it generally, right now one still has to request access.

I believe the share settings are correct now. Pardon me while I go bang my head against this wall over here… :)

14 Nyet  Apr 8, 2015 4:14:46pm

Interestingly, the first time I heard the word “orthopraxy” (ortopraksiya) was from an Orthodox Christian co-worker with whom we used to hold discussions on the topic of religion. He was a nice guy personally, but also, unsurprisingly, a bigot, though not a 100% literalist/fundie. He used to say that Judaism and Islam are not “religions” in the original sense of “religare” - relationship with/connection to God - but rather orthopraxies, the sets of “correct” rituals and to-do acts. He juxtaposed them with the (Eastern) Orthodoxy - the “right belief”.

15 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 8, 2015 4:17:42pm

orthopraxy

i really like this coinage - greek is always cool

when i think of the meaning, “right” or “correct” practice, it reminds me of the eightfold path of buddhism;

1. Right view
2. Right intention
3. Right speech
4. Right action
5. Right livelihood
6. Right effort
7. Right mindfulness
8. Right concentration

of course, #4, right action, sits squarely on this point, while many other points here touch on it

coming from judaism where the core of the teaching takes a very practical view, that is, correct treatment of others and an obligation to give to charity, my bias is toward the practical and everyday

i have never gotten over the self involved versions of christianity where the fate of one’s own immortal soul is of paramount concern, and which sometimes even go so far as to say “your good deeds are like dirty rags to the Lord”

16 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 8, 2015 4:40:34pm

re: #15 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

orthopraxy

i really like this coinage - greek is always cool

when i think of the meaning, “right” or “correct” practice, it reminds me of the eightfold path of buddhism;

1. Right view
2. Right intention
3. Right speech
4. Right action
5. Right livelihood
6. Right effort
7. Right mindfulness
8. Right concentration

of course, #4, right action, sits squarely on this point, while many other points here touch on it

coming from judaism where the core of the teaching takes a very practical view, that is, correct treatment of others and an obligation to give to charity, my bias is toward the practical and everyday

i have never gotten over the self involved versions of christianity where the fate of one’s own immortal soul is of paramount concern, and which sometimes even go so far as to say “your good deeds are like dirty rags to the Lord”

This is very much where I’m coming from - between the 8 fold path and Jesus’ own Jewish faith, I’ve come to see this individualistic “Personal relationship with Jesus” to be at the core of the sickness of Christianity in modern America. It has no room for community and, really, what is a church (or a synagogue or …) but a community that exists to help each other along the way?

I have no illusion that this is going to be a best seller of any kind. But if I can get these thoughts into the hands of one or three who are helped by them? Then I’ll have done a little good and that’s more than those idiots at Memory Pizza can say.

17 Surabaya Stew  Apr 8, 2015 8:32:59pm

Hi William, as a long-time lurker I like what you write and appreciate your insights and good sprits to other Lizards on LGF. Good luck with your book, you certainly seem to be off to a good start :-)

18 Alyosha  Apr 9, 2015 6:51:43am

I’m not a person of many people and my dealings with people tend to turn me off them. You’ve always struck me as the kind of person who accepts all-comers and who is willing to educate people on the specifics of your faith.

One of the key parts of your philosophy is that orthopraxy is so important that it affects the immortal soul, a concept I am incapable of accepting in the physical sense. But, I know that if more people of faith were to adopt your position and the position of others of faith in the LGF community, the result would truly outlast all of us.

I’m keen to see what you’ve got :)

19 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 10, 2015 5:07:08pm

re: #7 Thanos

Ortho: Straight or upright
Praxis: Practice or Custom

Most folks are not going to get that, and some non-academic folks might run away from the combinatory Greek word like it is the plague. You might want to consider a more palatable and comfortable title in modern vernacular if you want to achieve a wider audience, put the big word in teh subtitlez.

One more suggestion: you could add an “Also See:
and then link your other other posts beneath that.

How about:

No Heaven; No Hell: An Essay In Orthopraxy

20 CleverToad  Apr 11, 2015 7:04:36am

I’m going to vote for Orthopraxy as the main title, with an explanatory subtitle — perhaps something along the lines of “Orthopraxy: Practicing What He Preached” or “Putting Faith Into Practice.” Someone who’s not familiar with word roots will still catch the echo of practice to -praxy; those who are familiar will grok the full origin (and feel clever). It’s a great word! You’ll define it right away in the jacket/e-book blurb, and expand on it in detail in the essay, so the potential readers will know what you’re getting at.

There are a LOT of good resources for self-publishing out there these days — start with the Christian publishers, as mentioned above, but it’s definitely an option to put out the e-book in conjunction with a print-on-demand arrangement for hardcopies. The Tattered Cover bookstore in Denver has set up its own printing press for print-on-demand; there may be a bookstore or small press in your area that has something similar.

I’m definitely interested in reading the whole, when you’re done. I put in a small donation to the fund, all I can swing right now but be happy to buy a copy when available. Hands-on faith is what I’ve always felt was the most effective, and what I’m trying and struggling to achieve. There’s an old saying I only heard a few years ago, and loved: “When you pray, move your feet.” We can only be saved by grace, but we can translate the grace we’ve been blessed with into works that will help others.

Good luck on this!

21 William Barnett-Lewis  Apr 12, 2015 11:25:09am

Perhaps then,

“Orthopraxy: Right Works in Modern America”?


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