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1 HappyWarrior  Apr 29, 2015 7:08:51pm

Fuck that. The birthright citizenship plays a big role in helping children of immigrants assimilate quickly. This is just more right wing xenophobic crap.

2 subterraneanhomesickalien  Apr 29, 2015 9:39:07pm

Does this open up the door for stripping of citizenship?

3 EPR-radar  Apr 30, 2015 1:04:59am

There’s a reason the 14th amendment reads the way it does. It was necessary to find a way to make citizens of former slaves after the civil war, and the Republicans of that era settled on birthright citizenship as in the 14th amendment.

Nowhere is the total collapse of whatever principles the Republican party ever stood for more clear than in its recent and ongoing attempts to gut the 14th amendment. Most present day GOP proposals, if made retroactive, would deny citizenship to blacks in the US. This is not an accident.

4 aagcobb  Apr 30, 2015 8:01:04am

re: #2 subterraneanhomesickalien

Does this open up the door for stripping of citizenship?

I’m sure that is exactly what the racists promoting this bill would like to do.

5 Snarknado!  Apr 30, 2015 10:05:45am

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

I see no ifs, ands or buts. How do they expect to make their changes without a Constitutional amendment?

6 aagcobb  Apr 30, 2015 11:09:28am

re: #5 Snarknado!

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

I see no ifs, ands or buts. How do they expect to make their changes without a Constitutional amendment?

I believe they try to argue that a pregnant woman who entered the US illegally is not “subject to the jurisidiction thereof”. Which is nonsense.

7 Snarknado!  Apr 30, 2015 11:13:56am

re: #6 aagcobb

I believe they try to argue that a pregnant woman who entered the US illegally is not “subject to the jurisidiction thereof”. Which is nonsense.

All they need to do to make that work is grant immunity from the law to pregnant women. The anti-abortion people will love that.

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