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1 Drive By Commenter  May 21, 2015 12:36:40pm

Jeb. Batting a thousand again.

2 Great White Snark  May 21, 2015 12:45:45pm

Updated with clips and links from the ACLU

3 Skip Intro  May 21, 2015 12:54:23pm

Jeb’s really working overtime to win the Koch Bros’ heart.

Jeb Bush Blasts ‘Intellectual Arrogance’ in Climate Change Debate

“I don’t think the science is clear of what percentage is man-made and what percentage is natural. It’s convoluted,” he said.

“For the people to say the science is decided on this is really arrogant, to be honest with you,” he added. “It’s this intellectual arrogance that now you can’t have a conversation about it, even.”

nbcnews.com

Jeb will soon go on to say that “I’m no scientist and I don’t trust people who are”.

4 Great White Snark  May 21, 2015 12:57:45pm

re: #3 Skip Intro

Jeb’s really working overtime to win the Koch Bros’ heart.

Jeb Bush Blasts ‘Intellectual Arrogance’ in Climate Change Debate

nbcnews.com

Jeb will soon go on to say that “I’m no scientist and I don’t trust people who are”.

Reminds me of the creationist arguments about fossils and geology. More scientific arrogance I guess. Same argument for the same audience.

5 Charles Johnson  May 21, 2015 1:27:04pm

If you define “violating someone’s civil liberties” as an actual case of a specific human being who was deprived of civil liberties, he’s correct. In all of the documents released by Snowden and Greenwald, there hasn’t been a single case I’m aware of that shows any specific person’s civil rights were violated.

But obviously there’s more to it than that. It’s like passing a law that says the government can confiscate all your property at will, then saying “but nobody’s property has actually been confiscated!” The law is still wrong and shouldn’t exist, as a matter of principle.

6 Great White Snark  May 21, 2015 2:03:53pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I’d chip away a bit at that first point. It’s just too disingenuous by nature, not just for the hypothetical you present in your second paragraph. A concrete example. These people’s civil protections were reduced by the FBI and re instated by the court. I can’t imagine the example given happening without the Patriot Act and or expanded FISA. We may differ in that you or many might accept secret courts as a legitimate oversight, I just don’t.

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — They’re called national security letters and the FBI issues thousands of them a year to banks, phone companies and other businesses demanding customer information. They’re sent without judicial review and recipients are barred from disclosing them.

On Friday, a federal judge in San Francisco declared the letters unconstitutional, saying the secretive demands for customer data violate the First Amendment.

7 Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 21, 2015 4:21:58pm

re: #3 Skip Intro

Well, Jeb knows how the entire GOP and much of the USA in general’s bread is buttered. He has succeeded personally from his massive pre-determined entitlement. -He who can kowtow the greatest to the Koch wing of the USA stands the strongest chance of gaining the nod for the nomination.

Knowing that a full 30%-35% of the USA will vote for the most hard right wing candidate that has national exposure, Fox News credibility, and the backing of Koch Industries (and their nefarious band of sycophants) Jeb feels free to let his (presumably) freak flag fly.

With his latest barrage of anti-Science, anti-Intellectual, pro-Ignorance pandering, watch his poll numbers rise dramatically.

8 FemNaziBitch  May 22, 2015 11:40:08am
Anyone’s Civil Liberties

you know, not just anyone is Anyone in Jeb’s world.


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