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1 Great White Snark  Jul 4, 2015 8:15:02am

So far most measures amount to squeezing the earth or some resource harder and faster. Climate change, resource depletion, pollution all come up as populations enlarge and become bigger energy users. Like China and India. The better answer is a reduced population. Imagine what our resources and technology would offer say three billion instead of nine billion?

Not wishing for some disaster or draconian measures. Just looking at the math of consumption and the capacity of the earth to recover or recycle.

2 Romantic Heretic  Jul 4, 2015 8:36:43pm

Soylent Green?

3 The War TARDIS  Jul 4, 2015 10:05:13pm

More heavy promotion of Birth Control, and more government controlled zoning, especially in the US.

Along with Immigration to help take the overload out of some countries.

4 subterraneanhomesickalien  Jul 4, 2015 10:44:46pm

You just have to hope that more education reaches more little girls and young women over the next several decades leading them to want to pursue other goals besides child rearing.

5 electrotek  Jul 5, 2015 8:29:27am

I’ve always argued that Iran is more progressive than both Evangelical Christians and Sunni Muslims when it comes to adopting family planning. Iran’s neighbors need to take note when it comes to curtailing their rapidly growing populations, most especially Pakistan since Pakistani population growth continues to strip the natural resources of the country bare.

6 CuriousLurker  Jul 5, 2015 5:07:31pm

Not to worry, see last night I was reading a book and then went googling for something and ended up on a fundie Christian Identity doomsday prepper site which had me mesmerized (in horror) for a good 45 minutes. It was the mother lode of all kinds of bad crazy, and the worst part is that the guy running it is clearly absolutely sincere and convinced that…. I can’t even describe it.

Anyway, one of the things he said was that the before the biblical Great Flood (when Noah was building his ark) the world population was around 10 billion. Ha—see, I’ll be you didn’t know that did you?? Well, he does because in 1984 some guy wrote a book about the Bible being the basis for modern science and he provided a formula to figure it out. Here’s a screenshot since I don’t want to quote any of the text directly lest it attract some of these people:

Also too, God told him & some other guys some stuff through the Holy Spirit, so they’re just prophesying (not dreaming up paranoid CTs). Here’s the DoNotLink URL if you want to go take a look yourself:

The above is page five, but the original one I landed on was page six (about the Ozarks safe haven). After those I tried to read the page about the Mother of All Conspiracies, but by then my brain was exhausted and my eyes had glazed over, so I left.

So like I said, not to worry—they’re preparing their ark down there and everything’s going to be fine after the next flood (or whatever catastrophe is supposed to take out everyone but them).

BTW, this guy was originally from St. Louis where the CoCC is headquartered (Ferguson anyone?), and the far north-eastern corner of the supposed safe haven seems to spread out from there.

Google Books Excerpt

I’m beginning to suspect that St. Louis is the wellspring of modern day white supremacist, religious wingnuttery.

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