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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2016 • 6:24:29am

Excellent article. Everyone should read this.

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WhatEVs  Jan 7, 2016 • 8:33:56am

Great article!

Here’s the problem:

This precedent should have put an end to such challenges, but subsequent generations of would-be Sagebrushers have adopted the same hostile anti-federal rhetoric and oft-violent tactics.

We’ve watched Republicans in congress attempt to repeal Obamacare almost 60 times. Nothing is ever over until the desired outcome is achieved. Republicans have tried to do away with Social Security for 80+ years and Medicare since its inception.

Republicans fuel this daily by their words and behavior. When elected officials go on and on about how bad, corrupt, evil the government (that they work in) is, is there any possible other outcome?

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2016 • 12:06:55pm

re: #2 WhatEVs

Great article!

Here’s the problem:

We’ve watched Republicans in congress attempt to repeal Obamacare almost 60 times.

I just so happens that I was looking that up a few minutes ago. As of yesterday, they’ve voted to repeal it 62 times. It was their second order of business after reconvening and the Call of the House on January 5. They’re not governing, they’re obstructing (as usual).

WASHINGTON — As its opening move in the newly convened Congress, the House voted Wednesday to repeal the Affordable Care Act, the 62nd such vote but the first time that a bill will make it to President Obama’s desk, forcing a rare veto to protect his signature domestic achievement.

The measure passed easily, 240 to 181. […]

nytimes.com

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theheat  Jan 7, 2016 • 12:47:08pm

In case anyone’s crazy uncle brings up the reason these ranchers feel emboldened is because we have a POTUS that cried on television, understand these anti-government nutjobs have been at it for decades. From April of 1995:

That same week in Montana, a self-styled citizen’s militia leader directed threats at several public officials, saying, “There cannot be a cleansing without the shedding of blood.” At least two judges say they now fear for their lives.

…In the state of Nevada, and in about 30 counties elsewhere in the West, some local officials have said they will arrest Federal employees if they get in the way of plans by ranchers, miners and others to assert control over public lands. [emphasis added]

Coincidentally, the definition of public lands has not changed at any time before or since this hillbilly insurrection.

Have the hillbillies always been crazy? Of course. In An Interview with Calvin Greenup (hillbilly militia member) he proclaims the same tired pseudo Christian end times welfare ranching gun-toting secessionist psychobabble, with such gems as

If it [New World Order] isn’t here five years from now, maybe here in six. If it’s not here six years from now, it may be here seven. But I don’t think that this nation, in their regression that they’ve had governmentally, and the buildup of New World Order that this nation has seen in the last two years, it ain’t gonna go five years. Something serious is going to happen. This is 1996. Something serious, according to the Scripture in the last chapter, something serious, because of the things about disease, pestilence, plague, earthquakes, famine — it’s already happening. Floods — you name it, it’s happening all over the world. More than ever in history.

…I was going to stay behind to take the bullets. I told everybody — I said, one more American must die. And they don’t have anything on me. I’ve been a good American, I’ve been a good patriot to this nation, I’ve been faithful to this country. And I said, it’s probably going to require one more of us die so that the rest of the people can really wake up and see what crooked, corrupt government is all about.

Perhaps Calvin, who was on the run from Johnny Law before being sentenced to prison, learned to pack better lunches for his standoffs.

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theheat  Jan 7, 2016 • 1:26:02pm

From The Oregonian Oregon militants: Death threats from ranchers reported years before standoff:

The Village Voice reported that one Hammond supporter had called Cameron, the Malheur manager, and “threatened to wrap the Camerons’ 12-year-old boy in a shroud of barbed wire and stuff him down a well.”

Kisler remembers hearing tales of death threats against federal officials by other Harney County ranchers angry over new grazing rules at Malheur as early as the 1970s.

“This sort of volatile situation on Malheur is nothing new,” he said. “It’s been going on for generations.”

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CuriousLurker  Jan 7, 2016 • 3:44:29pm

re: #4 theheat

The link to “An Interview with Calvin Greenup ” is returning a 404 error.

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theheat  Jan 7, 2016 • 9:14:24pm

re: #6 CuriousLurker

Argh! Here’s the linky: An Interview with Calvin Greenup.


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