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nines09  May 17, 2016 • 10:24:52am

Cultural appropriation. Whoever coined that garbage word needs to understand the music is about all of us. Soul knows no color. You have it or you do not. Darryl has it.

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Great White Snark  May 17, 2016 • 12:16:39pm

re: #1 nines09

Cultural appropriation. Whoever coined that garbage word needs to understand the music is about all of us. Soul knows no color. You have it or you do not. Darryl has it.

So I can wear dreadlocks now?
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nines09  May 17, 2016 • 1:15:22pm

re: #2 Great White Snark

So I can wear dreadlocks now?
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I and I say, if you want Rastafari you go Fari.

Jacob Miller - Tenement Yard

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wrenchwench  May 17, 2016 • 4:33:38pm

Cultural appropriation is real. Maybe not in music. Here’s a Native American rapping about it:

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De Kolta Chair  May 17, 2016 • 5:04:55pm

re: #3 nines09

I and I say, if you want Rastafari you go Fari.

Just don’t Jamaica fool of yourself, mon.

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Thanos  May 19, 2016 • 7:48:34am

re: #4 wrenchwench

Cultural appropriation is real. Maybe not in music. Here’s a Native American rapping about it:

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Sure it’s real, It’s what we do because we are human, and it’s what makes us great. We are all of us appropriating the culture of everyone who went before. In the song you posted the singer appropriates black culture by rapping, is that OK, but a model wearing an eagle feather headdress isn’t? (Don’t give me that “sacred” bit, if piss Christ is OK, then a model wearing a headdress is OK. Besides that, whose culture are they appropriating since others who went before the American natives wore eagle feather headdresses on the Asian plains?)

The world would be one screwed up place if we didn’t steal the best bits from each other. There certainly are examples of tribal supremacists and institutional cultural insensitivity. those who do appropriate in a bad way; but we can’t allow the exception to make the rule. You see someone doing it badly, point it out and make fun of them, but as someone who is part native american I’m sure not going to get upset when I see a model wearing a feather headdress which is what’s been going around Facebook as an example.

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Thanos  May 19, 2016 • 10:28:03am

Here’s an example of truly offensive “cultural appropriation” - but really it’s just plain old racism - the Indians logo.

en.wikipedia.org

There’s not much difference between that and caricatures of Jews, Blacks, or Asians - how the Indians have gotten away with the Chief Wahoo logo so long is beyond me.

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mroop  May 19, 2016 • 2:34:31pm

The infamous Hall and Oates article from Rolling Stone in 1985 linked below. All fans should give it a read. Hall is very talented, but kind of an arrogant douche. That doesn’t include how he treated his son. There’s an Appellate Division case on his child support issues that you can find on Google Scholar. Live From Daryl’s House is great. I picked up the H&O box set recently, man could those guys write hits!

It’s weird,” Hall says, without a trace of irony. “I’m just about the best singer I know, and it’s time for everybody to say that. I have total facility with my voice. And for some weird reason, critics don’t talk about it.”

Read more: rollingstone.com

Dary hall talks about his son at LAX

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mroop  May 19, 2016 • 3:11:09pm

On the issue at hand, as an amateur musicologist I will say that r&b was prior to soul music. R&B was music made by black people and it was called “race music”. Jerry Wexler (white guy) was working at Billboard and he came up with the name “rhythm and blues” to replace “race music” and that morphed into “r&b”. R&B morphed into “soul” with Ray Charles, now known as the “Godfather of Soul”. Ray Charles was initially pretty much a Charles Brown imitator and you can hear this on his recordings for Swing Time. If you want to hear some great stuff check out some Charles Brown. I would recommend his Verve recordings from the 90’s and all the way back to his Aladdin recordings from the 1940’s. In short, soul was music made by black people initially. As far as I’m concerned, all of the great soul music was made by black people for the most part with some exceptions - see the 2013 documentary “Muscle Shoals” or any of the documentaries on Atlantic Records that you can find on YouTube. There are some white folk that have made quality soul music and Daryl Hall is one of them. Todd Rundgren is another one - see his 1989 album “Nearly Human”. Not coincidentally, both are from Philadelphia (home of Philly Soul - see Thom Bell and Gamble & Huff) and Todd has been a guest twice on Live At Daryl’s House.

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mroop  May 19, 2016 • 7:22:04pm
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mroop  May 19, 2016 • 7:25:20pm

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