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mroop  May 30, 2016 • 12:47:30am

Anders Breivik: Extreme Beliefs Mistaken for Psychosis

Great White Snark  May 30, 2016 • 8:19:35am

Sorry to disagree. But there is a terribly wrong premise at here, the idea that learning more about violent mental illness is not worthwhile because the NRA says it’s the only thing. The mistake might be to let anyone take these preventative actions as mutually exclusive. There is every rational reason to improve mental health help, most especially in those who would hurt others or themselves. mental illness is a huge factor in suicide by gun, directly or via cop. Is this so much less of a good idea because it only impacts “small” not mass shootings? Or only a few of them? We usually think in terms of “if it only saves one life”.

Let me answer the authors question directly-
Most mass shooters aren’t mentally ill. So why push better treatment as the answer?

Because some (20% by the authors admission) of the time is enough. We really can do that and all the other measures that make sense. None of these things exclude the other. Few measures “stop” anything but they are worthy. We can’t stop DUI. We can’t stop gang activity. We can take measures to reduce and prevent. Most of the time that’s a good approach.

So who is the writer trying to convince? Believers of the most extreme NRA propaganda? All 4% of gun owners that are even members? Perhaps most people know better I think they do. You can’t stop all people from misunderstanding causes and effects. But was just some good enough?

My question for the author is what interest is served by lessening our attention to the violently mentally ill? Or is this another long way around to come to the patently obvious conclusion the NRA can’t be trusted?

Henry Decker

Poll: NRA’s Popularity Declining

Great White Snark  May 30, 2016 • 9:13:47am

The thing most wrong with the NRA approach is that it is propagandistic. I submit we are better served by the more clinical approach. I did find this article from Psychology Today to be educational.

In my PT blog (Evil Deeds) I have been posting numerous examples of murderously violent behavior perpetrated by pathologically angry individuals, usually men, including the Columbine High School shootings, Virginia Tech, as well as some more recent savage massacres in Los Angeles, Germany, Florida and Alabama to mention but a few. (See previous post) Last week, in North Carolina, Robert Stewart opened fire at a nursing home, killing seven very elderly residents and a nurse. Police speculated that the forty-five-year-old Stewart, who did not commit suicide and is currently in custody, targeted the facility because his estranged wife once worked there. And just today, a forty-two-year-old gunman with a high-powered rifle killed thirteen victims, critically wounded four, and took at least forty-one people hostage in Binghamton, New York before finally shooting himself. Curiously, despite the clearly raging epidemic of anger-fueled violence in America and abroad, the almost one-thousand pages of the American Psychiatric Association’s official diagnostic manual, the DSM-IV-TR, contain only a handful of diagnoses capable of accurately addressing this disturbing and growing phenomenon. This is a serious omission, demanding immediate attention…

…I believe we are seeing a similar pattern in most of the other diagnoses traditionally applied to such angry, aggressive, violent individuals. Oppositional and Conduct Disorder are manifestations of underlying rage. The depressed, irritable mood and often furious manic behavior of Bipolar Disorder have deep roots in unconscious anger and resentment, as do the hostility, temper tantrums, rage and aggressive acting out in Antisocial, Borderline and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Indeed, I tend to consider all these diagnoses variations of anger disorder, and believe it is crucial to explicitly recognize them as such.

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