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Great White Snark  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:29:31am

Unconfirmed video on the Sacramento incident

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danarchy  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:52:40am

re: #1 Great White Snark

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Unconfirmed video on the Sacramento incident

Here is a longer video. The police were a little sow to respond, but they did eventually.

Yvette Felarca punching and attacking TWP supporter

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Great White Snark  Jun 28, 2016 • 11:58:34am

re: #2 danarchy

Thanks for that!

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CuriousLurker  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:06:25pm

re: #1 Great White Snark

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Unconfirmed video on the Sacramento incident

You might want to think twice about using anything that guy provides. He’s a disgusting bigoted misogynist, just take a look at his Twitter media timeline and it’ll tell you everything you need to know. I blocked him months ago.

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Great White Snark  Jun 28, 2016 • 12:23:43pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

I figured as much hence the video URL rather than his twitter. So far video has been surprisingly scarce. A good example of why body cams from police should be publicly available.

Sometimes video comes from a bad source but if not edited or a fraud it can be informative.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:22:55pm

Oh, this is going to turn out well. ///

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 28, 2016 • 1:58:20pm

Looking forward to the chants of “White Power” when Hair Fuhrer gives his acceptance speech at the Convention.

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CuriousLurker  Jun 28, 2016 • 2:06:37pm

re: #5 Great White Snark

I figured as much hence the video URL rather than his twitter. So far video has been surprisingly scarce. A good example of why body cams from police should be publicly available.

Sometimes video comes from a bad source but if not edited or a fraud it can be informative.

The guy posted a 32-second clip and framed it as “Sacramento Police refusing their oath to protect the Constitution,” before you could even watch one second of it.

Videos of the incidents in Sacramento aren’t scarce at all—if you search YouTube for the keyword Sacramento, then use the the drop-down menu to filter for this week you get 24,500 results. Some of them are even longer than the one danarchy posted above—13 minutes, 20 minutes, etc. Granted, not allthe results are about the rally, and of the ones that are some are bound to be duplicates or clips from longer versions, but there are still plenty of them.

As you can probably tell from the names of the channels, most are partisan. Any video that doesn’t come from a reliable source—i.e. the police, a well-known & trustworthy activist/group, or a piece that has been vetted & confirmed legit by an objective journalist—is questionable AFAIC. You work with video, so you know how easy it is to create illusion by editing and/or framing, then telling people “What you are seeing is…”

Do you remember that time I created a page about a video of Palestinians in Gaza which was triggered in part by a page you posted? Here you go: It was back in 2012 and the video you used was a 31-second clip from a BBC piece posted by a far-right Israeli news outlet, which I immediately pointed out and questioned (and which seemed to annoy you, at least at first).

Sliv also posted a page with another clip from another video posted at the blog of someone Charles was familiar with from the past (and who he now shuns). His page got pretty contentious.

I spent hours & hours on my rebuttal page, doggedly scrubbing though thousands of frames over & over again after I found the original BBC clip. I didn’t do it to dispute what was actually in the videos, but to prove that the framing was incorrect and the videos didn’t contain anything indicating they’d been staged or maliciously edited. I’ll also point out that there was a good bit of cognitive bias at work too, for example when Sliv asserted that one of the Palestinians had picked up “what looks like a pole of some sort and is angrily waving it.” He was doing no such thing, which I proved in my page—he had picked up the pole and tossed it aside to clear the path for a woman & two boys who were passing by.


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