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CuriousLurker  Aug 30, 2016 • 11:17:56am

I would point out that just because something is the law in Saudi Arabia, or because the the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice harass people over it, doesn’t mean that it’s Sharia per se. The Saudi king has no religious authority and a lot of stuff is conservative Saudi/Gulf culture.

The same can be said of any Muslim majority country. Sometimes the people living in them don’t realize that a lot of what goes on is due to Arab, Berber, Turkish, Desi, etc. culture

There is no caliphate (despite what Da’esh would have you believe), so it’s all basically just secular royalty, politicians, or the military (as in Egypt), or extremist criminal elements (Da’esh, Boko Haram, Al Shabab, et al.) cherry-picking whatever bits suit their cultural and/or political needs. None of them have any religious authority outside their own minds, except maybe the ayatollahs in Iran (but their legal authority only extends to the Shia living under their governance).

There is nothing in Sharia that says women can’t drive cars. Saudi men know this full well and will admit it in private. Obviously, there were no cars back in the 7th century, but there was commerce, transportation, etc. and a woman didn’t need a man to hop on a camel or whatever and take her where she needed to go. It’s absurd when you think about it.

There’s also nothing saying that women have to cover as they do in Saudi, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. Challenge any person who tells you otherwise to provide the Quranic verses or hadith that support it and that determine any punishment for refusing to comply. They won’t be able to.

I mean, sheesh—Muhammad’s (s.a.w.s.) first wife Khadija was a divorcée with kids, a successful businesswoman in her own right, and was older than he was. Granted, he wasn’t a prophet then, but still.

CuriousLurker  Aug 30, 2016 • 11:49:04am

re: #1 CuriousLurker

That’s not to say that some parts of Sharia aren’t positively draconian, or that I want to act as an apologist for those things—I don’t do apologia. My only point is that not every law in every Muslim majority country is part of Sharia, though some obviously are.

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