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EiMitch  Nov 11, 2016 • 3:29:49am

I see your point, and I agree. But this frankly isn’t going to happen.

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Citizen Bob  Nov 11, 2016 • 11:39:43am

re: #1 EiMitch

I see your point, and I agree. But this frankly isn’t going to happen.

We have seen a lot of horrible bullshit that frankly wasn’t going to happen. A little revolution is good, now and then. It exists; exploit it (like a Republican).

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EiMitch  Nov 11, 2016 • 4:10:42pm

re: #2 Citizen Bob

The electoral collage won’t go for it. You’re kidding yourself.

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Citizen Bob  Nov 12, 2016 • 1:54:08am

re: #3 EiMitch

The electoral collage won’t go for it. You’re kidding yourself.

3.36 million signatures. Talk to them, if you have anything to say.

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EiMitch  Nov 12, 2016 • 8:30:17am

re: #4 Citizen Bob

1 - How often does a change.org petition actually affect national politics? Seriously? How many times does a popular petition correlate with something actually being done?

2 - Who do think makes up the electoral college? They’re not exactly our peers. If you ever find out who the electors are, you’ll realize this is as false of a hope as Trump’s promise to bring back manufacturing jobs by slashing corporate taxes.

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Citizen Bob  Nov 12, 2016 • 2:56:58pm

Maryland already does this, signed it into law in 2007. They voted Hillary, so it’s not in play this time, but it’s far from impossible. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

AP 4/11/2007
ANNAPOLIS, Md. — Maryland officially became the first state on Tuesday to approve a plan to give its electoral votes for president to the winner of the national popular vote instead of the candidate chosen by state voters.

Gov. Martin O’Malley, a Democrat, signed the measure into law, one day after the state’s General Assembly adjourned.
The measure would award Maryland’s 10 electoral votes to the national popular vote winner. The plan would only take effect if states representing a majority of the nation’s 538 electoral votes decided to make the same change.

‘Spectator state’ insurrection
State Sen. Jamie Raskin, a law professor and sponsor of the idea, said Maryland is largely ignored by presidential candidates during campaigns, because they assume the Democratic state will vote for the Democratic candidate.

Raskin, a Democrat, said he hoped Maryland’s support for the idea will start a national discussion and “kick off an insurrection among spectator states - the states that are completely bypassed and sidelined” during presidential campaigns.
“Going by the national popular vote will reawaken politics in every part of the country,” Raskin said.

Other states are considering the change to avoid an election in which a candidate wins the national popular vote but loses in the Electoral College, as in 2000 when Democrat Al Gore lost to George W. Bush.

Hawaii’s legislature recently passed a similar measure, sending it to Republican Gov. Linda Lingle. California lawmakers adopted the measure last year, but Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed it.

National Popular Vote, a group that supports the change, said there are legislative sponsors for the idea in 47 states. Ryan O’Donnell, a spokesman for the group, described O’Malley’s decision to sign the legislation as “an open invitation” for other states to join Maryland.

But not everyone is buying into the idea. North Dakota and Montana rejected it earlier this year. Opponents say the change would hurt small rural states, where the percentage of the national vote would be even smaller than the three electoral votes they each have in the overall Electoral College.

Under the current Electoral College system, voters decide to support slates of “electors,” who meet to choose the president. A candidate needs a majority of 270 out of 538 to be elected.

MSNBC Video

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Eigth Immortal  Nov 12, 2016 • 2:58:26pm

re: #5 EiMitch

Agree with everything you say in this thread. Even though, counter-acting the results is what the Electoral College was created for. Much as I want to believe the Electoral College will… oh, I know it’s a pipe dream. Like you said EiMitch, it isn’t going to happen.


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