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Mattand  Jan 18, 2018 • 11:21:38am

Ugh, can we just freaking stop with lionizing Flake as The One True Moderate Republican Who Will Save Us From Trump™? Please?

A retiring Senator who votes for every regressive, fuck-everyone-but-the-rich policy that the GOP floats, and Trump supports, is not a man of principle who has finally seen the light. As many commenters over at Jezebel pointed out, this fucker is aiming to run for Governor of AZ or something else, and is burnishing this “I stood up to Trump” shtick to prove he’s a maverick.

Sound like another AZ Senator you know?

Flake is the equivalent of someone who sees a bully across the room from him, shouts “You’re a meanie”, and then dives out the nearest window, Simpsons-style.

Fuck this guy.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 18, 2018 • 1:06:39pm

re: #1 Mattand

Ugh, can we just freaking stop with lionizing Flake as The One True Moderate Republican Who Will Save Us From Trump™? Please?

A retiring Senator who votes for every regressive, fuck-everyone-but-the-rich policy that the GOP floats, and Trump supports, is not a man of principle who has finally seen the light. As many commenters over at Jezebel pointed out, this fucker is aiming to run for Governor of AZ or something else, and is burnishing this “I stood up to Trump” shtick to prove he’s a maverick.

Sound like another AZ Senator you know?

Flake is the equivalent of someone who sees a bully across the room from him, shouts “You’re a meanie”, and then dives out the nearest window, Simpsons-style.

Fuck this guy.

First I never lauded this guy as anything apart from giving thanks as above.

Show me the list of Democratic senators making similar statements and I will then be far more impressed with your skepticism. Not my fault this guy has more stones than all the rest. Retiring or not.

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Mattand  Jan 18, 2018 • 1:31:07pm

Seriously, you’re a regular visitor to LGF and you think the Democratic Party has been less tough on Trump than Flake?

Rep. Frederica Wilson? Senator Kirsten Gillibrand? Senator Elizabeth Warren? Rep. John Lewis?

You really want to go with that?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 18, 2018 • 3:11:21pm

re: #3 Mattand

The idea I’m making a comparison like a horse race on who wins is incorrect.
Hell Flakes speech should have been utterly lost in the din of similar and stronger language from the Dems,. BTW of which I am one as of recently. Maybe you just can’t stand to see what we want from everyone coming from a hated Republican. I get that but I’m not there. I’m listening and happy to see heat aimed at Donald Trump from any quarter whatsoever. Show me which Dems publicly unhesitatingly agree with all the the accusations Flake makes. The accusations, the facts they point to stand on their own, independent of the source of the words.

Dems screaming for consequences for emoluments, impeachment, and railing against the appointments? Yeah, some, scattered. Got a lot more “wait and see” than act.

Instead of words like Flakes I got this- Pelosi: Impeaching Trump ‘not someplace that I think we should go’

And this

Six House Democrats released articles

of impeachment against President Trump Wednesday morning, but party leaders in the chamber do not support that effort.

Aaand this
Impeachment, it’s not something you ought to welcome. It’s not something you ought to be ready to—it’s not something you want,” New York Representative Jerry Nadler, who was elected as the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee—where any impeachment proceedings would begin—said in an interview with Politico.

Not encouraging.

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Mattand  Jan 18, 2018 • 6:10:14pm

Flake is essentially playing you like Trump plays the deplorables. Actions speak louder than words, and Flake’s actions are that he is still content to back whatever horrible policies that Republicans want to inflict on anyone not rich and white; regardless of whatever #nevertrump script he’s following.

You want to give Flake an “Atta boy” and a cookie, that’s up to you. Just for shits and giggles, run your “Flake is fighting Trump harder than Democrats” theory past the folks over in the main LGF threads.

Let me know how that turns out.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 18, 2018 • 7:47:42pm

Playing me? I said thanks to a specific speech. One we would have loved to hear from a democrat. Low bar for the term.
You don’t like his record or his party? Me neither. So…? When you find a democratic senator making a speech that attacks the president like that one did, please post it here for due recognition. Until then we both await a suitable and appropriate level of speech and action by the dems against this president. In the meantime states like California and NY will attempt to take up the slack.


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